Brief thoughts.

[Spencer_White]

2004-05 still gets me angry now. I did over 3000 miles following town that season and I saw us win at City (which was terrific) and get a draw at Torquay. But what about the other 15 games I went to? 13 losses with a striker who was nailed on 20+ goals a season.

It was criminal. Ive said it before and Il say it again. King was motivated about keeping his own job, thats why we were so much better at home, cos he knew if he kept the home fans on board then he could do what he wanted.

Its soooo much better comming away with a point. If we can get draws on the road, and win at home we will stay up, easy.

[red macca]

until i was banned away games were fuckin brilliant.the atmospere was like it has been for the last 5 away games.i must admit as much as i cant wait to go again the last year or so since i had a baby and other things i started to question will it be the same as it was when i used to go.but recently the buzz is back and im not even going so fuck knows what its like for you lot.hopefully by the end of this season i will be back going week in and week out again taking my little one staying out of trouble and going mental with fallon in the last minuite in the town end..cant fuckin wait now

[adje]

Im with DV.I could never bring myself to singalongaking(mind you I never sang "King out"either)but "I I IFFY IFFY I" just seems to roll off my tongue.

[Ben Wah Balls]

You probably did imagine it BWB. King very rarely got his name sung even when were up in 4th

IEIEIEIO use to die out when it got to the andy is our king line in the Nationwide, always a few people would mumble that was it.

I remember Andy Kings Barmy Army being sung once in the Nationwide ever. I agree it was a good season, but some fans just never warmed to King at all ever.

Iffy had more support against Doncaster than King did the whole time he was here!!

We're not divded by the manager, all the true fans are behind him. We can do this....

Nah that's bollocks, a few fans never warmed to King but they were very much in the minority then, all the "true fans" as much as any "true fans" are behind Iffy, that's a pointless statement because any definition of a true fan is purely opinion. Listen to anyone texting into radio swindon and you will see there is still a divide, you get just as many when we have a bad result than you did a couple of seasons ago and they still tend to be mostly pricks.

Iffy will have a lot of tough times to cope with yet, if we achieve half as much as we did under King he'll have done well.

[Spud]

The name K*ng should be banned from this forum.  :evil:

[sonicyouth]

trust ben to ruin a postive thread by harking back to king's reign. face it, that's in the past and we were going nowhere under king after the play-off season. as spencer says, 04/05 was a total waste of time and that's entirely king's fault.

have you even seen us this season ben?

iffy inheirited a pretty poor squad who were slowly sinking without trace, things didn't change as soon as he took over but he's turned things around. we're on the up. anybody who went to games like oldham, huddersfield, vale etc would know that we didn't get the three points we deserved from those games.

you always banged on about giving king time so why not give iffy the same?

[Spud]

BWB needs to take his K*ng tinted specs off.

[DV]

BWB, firstly true fan was probably not the right word, lets say regular fans....

Where ever we were, certain people didnt like King. People would NOT chant is name, as I've already said EIEIEIO always died out before it got to the last line and we never gave King the honour of chanting his name followed by red n white army.

Those people who text in, well the thats their opinion whatever they think of Iffy there is never a bad word said about him in the stands. No one boos when we sing his name and everyone joins in with chants of his name. He started with some poor results, did anyone chant Iffy out....no

He might not get the same success as King, but he doesnt have the same money or resources as King. King had a better wage budget, money to spend and the best player in the division in his squad. Iffy has a lower wage budget, no money to spend and no Sam Parkin. He has a different job, he will achieve different things.

If Iffy keeps us up, it will be a better achievement than King getting us into the play offs in my opinion because most people have already written us off, even some of our fans.

I feel much more confident with Iffy in charge and most people who go every week feels the same way.

[red macca]

BWB, firstly true fan was probably not the right word, lets say regular fans....

Where ever we were, certain people didnt like King. People would NOT chant is name, as I've already said EIEIEIO always died out before it got to the last line and we never gave King the honour of chanting his name followed by red n white army.

Those people who text in, well the thats their opinion whatever they think of Iffy there is never a bad word said about him in the stands. No one boos when we sing his name and everyone joins in with chants of his name. He started with some poor results, did anyone chant Iffy out....no

He might not get the same success as King, but he doesnt have the same money or resources as King. King had a better wage budget, money to spend and the best player in the division in his squad. Iffy has a lower wage budget, no money to spend and no Sam Parkin. He has a different job, he will achieve different things.

If Iffy keeps us up, it will be a better achievement than King getting us into the play offs in my opinion because most people have already written us off, even some of our fans.

I feel much more confident with Iffy in charge and most people who go every week feels the same way.

post of the year dv85 that is spot on

[Ben Wah Balls]

He might not get the same success as King, but he doesnt have the same money or resources as King. King had a better wage budget, money to spend and the best player in the division in his squad. Iffy has a lower wage budget, no money to spend and no Sam Parkin. He has a different job, he will achieve different things.

If Iffy keeps us up, it will be a better achievement than King getting us into the play offs in my opinion because most people have already written us off, even some of our fans.

King had very little money or resources, much the same as Iffy has now got, let's not forget we were in administration for a long time, he also made a big profit on players. How much of the Parkin money did he have to spend, he only had arguably the best player in the division because he managed to buy him very cheaply.

The wage budget is not much different, if Iffy keeps us up it will be the same achievement as King keeping us up in 2000/2001 but despite the lower budget I think we have a better squad of players now than we did then.

Only getting into the playoffs would be as big an achievement as getting into the playoffs, resources are similar, both managers jobs are equally difficult.

[Spencer_White]

I would agree that this team is a lot better than that on 2000/01. But the teams around us are also a lot stronger (Gills, City, Tranmere - all probably too good to go down).

Plus we were never ever this far adrift in 2000/01. Weve basically come back from the dead.

[red macca]

He might not get the same success as King, but he doesnt have the same money or resources as King. King had a better wage budget, money to spend and the best player in the division in his squad. Iffy has a lower wage budget, no money to spend and no Sam Parkin. He has a different job, he will achieve different things.

If Iffy keeps us up, it will be a better achievement than King getting us into the play offs in my opinion because most people have already written us off, even some of our fans.

King had very little money or resources, much the same as Iffy has now got, let's not forget we were in administration for a long time, he also made a big profit on players. How much of the Parkin money did he have to spend, he only had arguably the best player in the division because he managed to buy him very cheaply.

The wage budget is not much different, if Iffy keeps us up it will be the same achievement as King keeping us up in 2000/2001 but despite the lower budget I think we have a better squad of players now than we did then.

Only getting into the playoffs would be as big an achievement as getting into the playoffs, resources are similar, Iffy's job is no harder.

that is bollocks ben.kings budget was much higher than what we got this year.and as much as you think king done well in signing parkin it was not rocket science he could of gone to northampton or us king didnt spot him he had been around already.he took as much a gamble on parkin as he did with sabin,opera etc but one of his gambles came off

[DV]

He might not get the same success as King, but he doesnt have the same money or resources as King. King had a better wage budget, money to spend and the best player in the division in his squad. Iffy has a lower wage budget, no money to spend and no Sam Parkin. He has a different job, he will achieve different things.

If Iffy keeps us up, it will be a better achievement than King getting us into the play offs in my opinion because most people have already written us off, even some of our fans.

King had very little money or resources, much the same as Iffy has now got, let's not forget we were in administration for a long time, he also made a big profit on players. How much of the Parkin money did he have to spend, he only had arguably the best player in the division because he managed to buy him very cheaply.

The wage budget is not much different, if Iffy keeps us up it will be the same achievement as King keeping us up in 2000/2001 but despite the lower budget I think we have a better squad of players now than we did then.

Only getting into the playoffs would be as big an achievement as getting into the playoffs, resources are similar, Iffy's job is no harder.

King had very little money, but still more than Iffy

Parkin - 50k
Fallon - 70k?
Roberts - 50k?
Ifil - 70k?

Off the top of my head thats 4 players King brought in for money. I've had rough guess at the totals spent.

Iffy has been given £0 to spend, which is slightly different.

Kings job was easier because he had Parkin, I know King bought him and for that I say fair play. 50k spent very well indeed, but who is to say if Iffy was given 50k to spend he couldnt pull a decent player out the hat? No one knows what his spend is like because he hasnt been given anything to spend.

I'm no expert so I cant say how much the wage budget has been slashed, but there is talk every season of it being slashed again and again. I expect King had a bigger wage budget to work with, which can make it easier to attract players.

[red macca]

did we pay money for o,hanlon aswell?if we did thats nearly 300k king spent

[Ben Wah Balls]

He might not get the same success as King, but he doesnt have the same money or resources as King. King had a better wage budget, money to spend and the best player in the division in his squad. Iffy has a lower wage budget, no money to spend and no Sam Parkin. He has a different job, he will achieve different things.

If Iffy keeps us up, it will be a better achievement than King getting us into the play offs in my opinion because most people have already written us off, even some of our fans.

King had very little money or resources, much the same as Iffy has now got, let's not forget we were in administration for a long time, he also made a big profit on players. How much of the Parkin money did he have to spend, he only had arguably the best player in the division because he managed to buy him very cheaply.

The wage budget is not much different, if Iffy keeps us up it will be the same achievement as King keeping us up in 2000/2001 but despite the lower budget I think we have a better squad of players now than we did then.

Only getting into the playoffs would be as big an achievement as getting into the playoffs, resources are similar, Iffy's job is no harder.

King had very little money, but still more than Iffy

Parkin - 50k
Fallon - 70k?
Roberts - 50k?
Ifil - 70k?

All except Parkin were signed due to the extra wage money available due to the 2000 extra fans we got in 2003/2004, when we got Parkin we had to spend a little cash at the expense of having a reduced wage budget, the wage budget was higher but we had a number of poor players signed by Colin Todd on far too high wages meaning the available money was just as low.