Port Vale v Swindon Matchday Thread

[Dazzza]

Nah, there is no way Emile Heskey would have the same impact if brought on with 10 minutes to go, he just isn't a better option.

Quite right, he may have actually scored.  

[adje]

This is media induced hype.They are desperate fore Crouch to be good but he is in fact shite-All 'pool fans I know agree.

[Ben Wah Balls]

No he just wouldn't score or in fact do anything. He wouldn't have set up Rooney with a superb flick or supported Owen and prevented Samuel challenging him.

That's not true about the media Adje, much of the reason Crouch is underrated is due to media scapegoating.

[adje]

Wrong -the media love him.The Commentary on Liverpools last euro champions league game was embarrassing -trying to tell us that he was playing well when in fact Benitez took him off because he was hopeless.In fact his replacement Cisse scored almost immediately to highlight his crapness.

[Dazzza]

100% Adje.

There is no evidence to suggest that Peter Crouch is anything other than a striker that's had one very good season but never the less over achieved.

For such a tall player he’s not great in the air, despite setting up Owen against the Argies overall he creates very little in the way of assists leading to goal scoring opportunities and his goal scoring record overall is nothing special at all.

Crap :twisted:

[Bob's Orange]

This argument is almost as boring as whether or not Andy King did a good job as Swindon manager!

[santini]

We wuz robbed!! Absolutely murdered Vale. Midfield ran them ragged.

Get rid of Roberts. He's just a greedy arrogant waste of space. We had so much possession and he wasted most of it. Shooting wildly when others were so much better placed or fannying around with stupid little flicks when team mates were wide open and screaming for the ball. Bouazza was just better than him but both need to realise this is a team game. They both sat back and stopped working Vale's defence late on. This let their full backs join in and we gave away an avoidable goal.

No way will we go down if we can convert the quality football we played today into goals.

[Dazzza]

What was Ifil like, he sounded almost like the player we had on loan?

[Ben Wah Balls]

Wrong -the media love him.The Commentary on Liverpools last euro champions league game was embarrassing -trying to tell us that he was playing well when in fact Benitez took him off because he was hopeless.In fact his replacement Cisse scored almost immediately to highlight his crapness.

Wrong, he often recieves far too much cricism in the media particularly after the Austria game for which he was one of our best players and did not deserve any criticism at all but the more misguided areas of the media did so relentlessly. Only the more sensible sections of the media support him, like Sam Allardyce's column.

[Tails]

Ifil was very very good today. If Roberts wasn't so greedy he would have been my MOTM. Bouazza and Fallon were both excellent as was...well..all of them really. I haven't seen us completely outplay a team for that long since we were in the playoffs.

[Ben Wah Balls]

he creates very little in the way of assists leading to goal scoring opportunities

  He creates fucking loads!

[Dazzza]

he creates very little in the way of assists leading to goal scoring opportunities

  He creates fucking loads!

 

Now I know you're taking the piss!

Ben I have to admire your unwavering blind faith.

Ever thought about Missionary work?

[Ben Wah Balls]

Dazzza if you're seriously trying to claim that Crouch does not create a lot of goals then there's no point in me arguing because I know you must have barely seen him play, just have a look at Morienties goal today for one of the huge number of examples.

Actually watch him play a bit then maybe you'll change your mind.

[Dazzza]

Dazzza if you're seriously trying to claim that Crouch does not create a lot of goals then there's no point in me arguing because I know you must have barely seen him play, just have a look at Morienties goal today for one of the huge number of examples.

Actually watch him play a bit then maybe you'll change your mind.

Actually I have seen him play on numerous occasions Ben and he’s been appalling on a lot of those occasions.  Granted last season when I saw him at St Marys he looked decent enough but by the same token so did Kevin Phillips and James Beattie in pretty much the same side.

Outside of today how many accredited assists does Crouch have for Liverpool this season?

I’ll give you a clue, one more than he’s scored.

I think that perhaps you should try and practise a little of what you preach young man.

[Ben Wah Balls]

That assists figure is absolute bollocks Dazzza, if you actually looked at how many goals he's created the figure would be far far bigger. In the Real Betis game alone he created two goals, one today, won a penalty against Aston Villa etc.  That's 4 examples of goals he's created in 3 games, there have been many more.

You shouldn't base your argument on meaningless statistics, Benitez has been happy with him and continues to play him because he knows he's playing well and Liverpool have been winning games with him playing which he's played a big part in. The only thing lacking from his game at the moment is the goals but they wil come.