dirty turks

[Luci]

I like the Turks....got a bit of spirit. Also invented the kebab...I'd rather they qualified than the Australians.

 The Ottoman empire was OK, I'd have liked to have been a Sultan with a harem.

Agree completely Reg, the turks are very hospitable and kind!!!  There are definitely two types with regards to the football variety and the everyday people - football variety being the minority.

[genf_stfc]

I like the Turks....got a bit of spirit. Also invented the kebab...I'd rather they qualified than the Australians.

 The Ottoman empire was OK, I'd have liked to have been a Sultan with a harem.

Agree completely Reg, the turks are very hospitable and kind!!!  There are definitely two types with regards to the football variety and the everyday people - football variety being the minority.

Of course, if you put it like that, its the same for all nations, most people are OK but there are always a few complete nob heads.  But it seems like there were some institutions complicit  in not allowing the visiting team to arrive safely from the airport, not allowing them to train in relative peace and quiet, turning a blind eye while stuff is thrown at them all game and while they are getting a kicking off the match security etc, etc...   This is not the first time they have been like this either - England v. Turkey 0-0 before Euro championships for example - England fans were banned from travelling, basically because the turks said they couldn't (or wouldn't) control the home fans - and that gives them an advantage unfairly.  

Plus, from a footballing point of view, I have never seen a dirty bunch of diving cheating tossers - they play good football when they do, but they just spend too much time trying to play the ref rather than the ball.  I watched the Argetina game, and they don't cheat half as much as the Turks, and that is saying somrthing !

[McLovin]

Wasn't it a Swiss bloke who started all the ruck by kicking a Turkish coach?

[janaage]

I think a serb started it by shooting Arch Duke Ferdinand.  The rest is history.  Good soldiers the turks.  The Ottoman Empire once stretched from the gates of Vienna to Persia I believe.

[Sippo]

T'was. They Alpay kicked off, who has a reputation with beckham aswell. Like Reg said they are a good side its just the fans are a bit crazy  :nuts:

[Asher]

I went to turkey this year and hand on heart never again, the most dirtiest pereverted country I have ever been to, and ive been to a fair few, hope they get a ban

[Reg Smeeton]

I think a serb started it by shooting Arch Duke Ferdinand.  The rest is history.  Good soldiers the turks.  The Ottoman Empire once stretched from the gates of Vienna to Persia I believe.

  I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry.

[ron dodgers]

Oh shut up Baldrick!

[Reg Smeeton]

Oh shut up Baldrick!

    Tony Robinson must have been gutted last Friday.

[santini]

I like the Turks....got a bit of spirit. Also invented the kebab...I'd rather they qualified than the Australians.

 The Ottoman empire was OK, I'd have liked to have been a Sultan with a harem.

No wonder they are good at football - wasn't Osman the first Ottoman Sultan?

 May have been...but I certainly don't recall Suleiman the Magnificent playing for the Shitty.

:shock: This may be the first time that the font of all knowledge has has not responded with absolute certainty :shock:

I may be wrong though

[reeves4england]

Stupid Turks.  Football violence seems to be part of their culture.

"The catalogue of sanctions extends from a simple warning to suspension of the federation, which could mean exclusion from the next international event. "

Namely 2006 which they haven't qualified for anyway :|

[Reg Smeeton]

I like the Turks....got a bit of spirit. Also invented the kebab...I'd rather they qualified than the Australians.

 The Ottoman empire was OK, I'd have liked to have been a Sultan with a harem.

No wonder they are good at football - wasn't Osman the first Ottoman Sultan?

 May have been...but I certainly don't recall Suleiman the Magnificent playing for the Shitty.

:shock: This may be the first time that the font of all knowledge has has not responded with absolute certainty :shock:

I may be wrong though

 Further research shows, that although Osman  is considered the senior tribal leader that founded what became the Ottoman Empire.....the first to append the title Sultan to  his name was in fact Murad I, who also established the practice of recruiting young Christian POW's and others press ganged into service....converting them to Islam under a harsh disciplinary regime, and using them as an elite corps of troops, known as the Janissaries.

[santini]

 Further research shows, that although Osman  is considered the senior tribal leader that founded what became the Ottoman Empire.....the first to append the title Sultan to  his name was in fact Murad I, who also established the practice of recruiting young Christian POW's and others press ganged into service....converting them to Islam under a harsh disciplinary regime, and using them as an elite corps of troops, known as the Janissaries.

These were famous for wrapping woven bandages around their heads to absorb impacts and any blood. They are credited with a double invention of the Turban and the Janissary Towel.

[Reg Smeeton]

The Janissaries effectively ran the empire through a network of sexual favours, bribery and corruption, often limiting the Sultan to a life of indolence, and drunken debauchery in the harem.

  So, a Sultan such as Selim the Sot, the son  of Suleiman is generally regarded as starting the fall of the Ottomans from their high point of empire.

 The Beeb should commission a series.

  Ummagumma....The Grand Vizier's Garden Party.

[larwood]

The Beeb should commission a series

 
There was a factual/history program about harems on Channel four a while ago,all i remember was that the sultan would sire so many children that there would be a blood bath as his male children tried to become sultan by killing each other.Oh there were also eunuchs and the women ate turkish delight in the nude licking the powder off their naked bodies :shock: [i may have imagined the last bit]  
Who's your avatar Reg?