Redevelopment vote

[RedRag]

Just to appreciate Berniman's helpful recap back on page 11.  The plans submitted were incomplete and pie in the sky.   The buck stops with Clem.  If it doesn't then that's still hardly the Trust's responsibility. 

[horlock07]

Just to appreciate Berniman's helpful recap back on page 11.  The plans submitted were incomplete and pie in the sky.   The buck stops with Clem.  If it doesn't then that's still hardly the Trust's responsibility. 

Just to step in on this bit as its my line of trade, TBF to the club/architects the plans were exactly what you would expect at this stage, I'm presently working on a stadium scheme elsewhere which is due to go into formal planning in the next 8 weeks (if that) and the plans for planning are at exactly the same stage as the ones the club had.

[Batch]

Just to step in on this bit as its my line of trade, TBF to the club/architects the plans were exactly what you would expect at this stage, I'm presently working on a stadium scheme elsewhere which is due to go into formal planning in the next 8 weeks (if that) and the plans for planning are at exactly the same stage as the ones the club had.

The architects plans were sound.
The business plan was incomplete and pie in the sky.

I think that's what was being got at?

[RedRag]

Helpful to have the Planning expertise on the Forum.  It was the funding that was especially sketchy.  No substance at all but even then Championship Football dropping from heaven just like that to cover the ongoing funding overheads was hilarious in a tragic sort of way.  

Architecturally, the proposed Hospitality development appeared to take zero account of any far more important Town End Hotel development which I would have expected to be concerned with the style and nature of any "Hospitality" development.  

Admittedly developing a Hospitality facility so as to to dovetail with a more significant project would have been financially even more fanciful, I suppose.

[Batch]

I thought there was some connectivity in the plans to link the DRS with a future TE hotel? I kind of assumed the hotel would be self contained in catering needs

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2025/may/30/an-update-on-the-don-rogers-redevelopment/

[Berniman]

Just to step in on this bit as its my line of trade, TBF to the club/architects the plans were exactly what you would expect at this stage, I'm presently working on a stadium scheme elsewhere which is due to go into formal planning in the next 8 weeks (if that) and the plans for planning are at exactly the same stage as the ones the club had.

Agreed, and like I said, the majority of the fans were probably for the overall concept of what was on show, heck they would have probably voted yes on a new toilet due to the current state of the ground..  The reason for the no vote was not what was shown, it was for how it will be paid for and what comes next - the answer of Championship football in 3 years, zero business plan and layering on additional debt was what drove the No vote, not the plans.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

I still find it utterly unfathomable that there are so many people who put the blame for the clubs bad performances on the people who protest, rather than seeing the real root of the problems. You simply cannot reason with such people as they don't want to listen to a valid discussion. How such people get through life it a mystery.

I cannot believe that they were so taken by his pint pulling, bucket hat wearing act that this overrules everything that has happened during his time here. How can you shut your eyes to so much counter evidence?

It definitely wound me up more a few years ago. Now its at such a stage if ridiculousness its pure insanity. Its clear they'll never see it until its too late.

Its like the bloke who thought he was dating Katy Perry on Catfish even when the girl who was talking to him was stood in front of them. Evidence can hit them square in the jaw and they'll ignore it.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

Anyone on here vote yes to the redevelopment?

Curious on your thoughts on the club struggling to get the rest of the ground to open for Saturday and if its impacted your opinion at all and what you would vote today.