Swindon v Carlisle pre match chat and matchday thread

[Batch]

My take:

Good points are - we pressed well. There was no lack of effort.

But obviously we didn't do much with the ball. The incisive passing and width of last week was gone. Too many backwards passes. Too many straight balls into the centre backs heads.

Fuck knows what we are trying to do on defending corners. Let's be honest Carlisle were well drilled, but they didn't offer much except height on dead balls.

Sigh.

[Frigby Daser]

Today wasn’t good, but it wasn’t as bad as the Chesterfield, Crawley or Walsall matches. We showed attacking intent (but could and should have shown more), but there were glimmers. The difficulty is that today was against a side who has no wins and one draw in 11 matches, and we have to dominate those.

The midfield just couldn’t find a way of dominating the game.

How do we improve? I’d like to find an alternative to King. He doesn’t have the energy to play wing back, nor the quality. I like Sobowale at centre back, but we might need to bring one of the other centre backs back, and push Sobowale out to the right. I’d prefer McGregor to King, on last season’s evidence. Kennedy also needs to find out why Butterworth (in the first half) and Cotterill (throughout) just couldn’t get involved today. That really hampered us.

Really disappointing. What did Kennedy have to say?

There are some rotten records now. 3 home league defeats by 21 September.

[tans]

Bottled the interview i think?

[Steak supper]

   are we doing the man   of the match ?

[Mr Stevens]

Are we doing Stonehenge tonight?

[Nemo]

   are we doing the man   of the match ?

Shit sorry, entirely forgot. Will sort that out after dinner...

[Bob1978]

I would give Kennedy the next 3 games to show Newport wasn’t a one off. Today was turgid and boring (apart from the first 15 before the Lino got injured)

[Freeloader]

Shit sorry, entirely forgot. Will sort that out after dinner...

Is the injured assistant ref an option?

[Outletred]

I would give Kennedy the next 3 games to show Newport wasn’t a one off. Today was turgid and boring (apart from the first 15 before the Lino got injured)

Agree with this.

[Leggett]

Thing is, it'd just be swapping out the deckchair attendant on the Titanic. Nothing will change.

[Batch]

We didn’t even manage three shots on target let alone “could have had 3 or 4.” I seriously must watch different games to people because I saw absolutely nothing in that performance that suggests we could have come away with 4 goals. Maybe I’m in the minority so fair play but thought we were toothless

I mostly agree with you. I think we should have scored in the first half (Tishimsnga) and we're unlucky to go behind when we did.

But I thought as attacking force we were poor.

Yes I've seen us play worse.

But I didn't come away feeling robbed as such. We didn't do enough to win. Neither did Carlisle. But we didn't defend corners, so can't complain about the result

[UTR]

The squad in its current shape overall is “fine”, it won’t go down and it won’t go up. “Fine” in big quotation marks as obviously that’s not fine for what we should be building but sadly that’s the state of us now.

I think today was a good example of where it’s limited in its approach. Carlisle came today with a game plan to be compact and hard to beat, nick a goal and then sit in and try and frustrate. Pretty much what you’d expect from a team in transition. The amount of shots we had is a somewhat misleading stat and if you looked at them without watching the match then they’d paint a different picture to the reality. The quality of those chances were poor, a handful of them probably qualify as proper chances, Tshimanga had the best one at 0-0 which he probably should have scored. Carlisle ceded the possession once their first goal went in and more so after they were gifted a 2nd. We huffed and puffed but I didn’t feel at any point that we built up enough confidence that we’d get a goal. Our crossing was poor, Butterworth was trying a bit too hard to impress against his former club and we struggled to get the forwards into goal scoring positions regularly enough.

There were some good points, Wright looks really good in the middle of the 3, especially in possession, Freckleton looks assured defensively and McGurk showed some good touches and guile when he came on. Sobowale deserves credit as well and looks to be a decent option at RCB but RWB will be an issue for us I think.

All in all, the last two games are about on par for what to expect of a fairly average middling league two team. Sometimes you’ll  be less shit, some times you’ll be more shit, the good thing is that in this division, your opposition will likely be just as shit. We’ll be in that 13th-18thish pack unless there’s some tactical tweaks that can get an extra 10% out of these.

[Jimmy Quinn]

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[Bob1978]

Well if MK is saying they are doing everything he wants… but they aren’t winning. Does this mean his tactics are shit? What’s the fucking point in crosses if knowone is on the end of them.

[TailBetweenLegs]

The squad in its current shape overall is “fine”, it won’t go down and it won’t go up. “Fine” in big quotation marks as obviously that’s not fine for what we should be building but sadly that’s the state of us now.

I think today was a good example of where it’s limited in its approach. Carlisle came today with a game plan to be compact and hard to beat, nick a goal and then sit in and try and frustrate. Pretty much what you’d expect from a team in transition. The amount of shots we had is a somewhat misleading stat and if you looked at them without watching the match then they’d paint a different picture to the reality. The quality of those chances were poor, a handful of them probably qualify as proper chances, Tshimanga had the best one at 0-0 which he probably should have scored. Carlisle ceded the possession once their first goal went in and more so after they were gifted a 2nd. We huffed and puffed but I didn’t feel at any point that we built up enough confidence that we’d get a goal. Our crossing was poor, Butterworth was trying a bit too hard to impress against his former club and we struggled to get the forwards into goal scoring positions regularly enough.

There were some good points, Wright looks really good in the middle of the 3, especially in possession, Freckleton looks assured defensively and McGurk showed some good touches and guile when he came on. Sobowale deserves credit as well and looks to be a decent option at RCB but RWB will be an issue for us I think.

All in all, the last two games are about on par for what to expect of a fairly average middling league two team. Sometimes you’ll  be less shit, some times you’ll be more shit, the good thing is that in this division, your opposition will likely be just as shit. We’ll be in that 13th-18thish pack unless there’s some tactical tweaks that can get an extra 10% out of these.

I wish i had that confidence. I am not sure we can ignore the previous results. We played a abdolutely injury ravaged Newport and today a team that has won 1 game all season, i think we are going to be around where we are now all season.

What worries me again is Kennedys words after the game about he knew we would be weak due to lack of height we are missing, that means he will be bringing Smith back in and back to the shite long ball we seen prior to his suspension