Swindon Town FC vs Barrow AFC pre match chat and matchday thread

[The Million Pound Man]

The fans medias approach to calling the club out and the correlation with access to the club itself perfectly demonstrates why having a Supporters Trust so close to the club is a huge red flag for me, and many others.

Speaking of which, where are the trust? Very quiet- should be banging the drum for a fans forum per the clubs charter and EFL guidelines.

[Trashbat?]

Last summer I spoke to someone who is involved in the background with STBL and I found it odd how much disdain they had for the loathed strangers and also to Vic Morgan.

They 100% overvalue their own importance to the fanbase.

[Mooneyraker]

Last summer I spoke to someone who is involved in the background with STBL and I found it odd how much disdain they had for the loathed strangers and also to Vic Morgan.

They 100% overvalue their own importance to the fanbase.

As evidenced by most people pre Carlisle asking "Who the hell is this bloke?"

I'd be surprised if they reach 1% of our whole fanbase.

Another example of the club having no idea what they are really doing. Without wishing to go all 'culture wars' I do think they have a slightly woke approach that completely ignores most 'legacy fans.' It is all social media, sustainability officers and womens' football.

I'd much rather hear a phone in on BBC Wilts with Clem/Aberdeen/Sandro or, for the craic, Zav himself.

[Trashbat?]

Another example of the club having no idea what they are really doing. Without wishing to go all 'culture wars' I do think they have a slightly woke approach that completely ignores most 'legacy fans.' It is all social media, sustainability officers and womens' football.

Legacy fans was exactly the phrase I used to someone last week. They are the ones who buy the season tickets, but the club seem to have a (possibly correct) belief these fans will always stick through thick and thin so they don't need to cater for them.

[Mooneyraker]

Legacy fans was exactly the phrase I used to someone last week. They are the ones who buy the season tickets, but the club seem to have a (possibly correct) belief these fans will always stick through thick and thin so they don't need to cater for them.

You still have to give these people a warm fuzzy feeling. The club is increasingly turning their back on them, or taking them for granted. Could be fatal.

[Batch]

I'm a legacy fan. I have renewed for next season.

Even so, the goodwill has been sucked out of me and if we repeat this years shenanigans in recruitment and levels next season I'll be faced with a difficult choice. If we can't compete in division 4 what's the point?

[Batch]

Seems a well meaning chap but totally blinded to reality by being given a little bit of access. As I have said before the LS Pod has improved since they were kicked out of the tent.

I've listened to a few pods this week (LS, SC and WMS), I only usually listen to the LS Pod regularly.

My opinion on what I've heard:
   1. Pods are run by fans. Some may be more "happy clappy" in nature but I think they have converged on views of what's wrong - or at least the pod contributors have. Even the Supporters Club contributors were somewhat critical yesterday (recruitment, Morrisball, etc). They tried to get Sandro on but haven't been able to.

   2. On the WMS the Bradford EFL twitter guy was on there. Seems he does have some inside track into STFC somehow (maybe just through Whelan)> He said he couldn't say much as it could be detrimental  to STFC, but that those that needed to be held accountable for the recruitment this season are being so.

(I've interpreted this as Sandro out but being done carefully/following a procedure, but who knows.)

   3. Tomato sauce on rice just isn't right.

[The Million Pound Man]

If we can't compete in division 4 what's the point?

Spot on. Especially now the debt has been 'cleared'. If Burton, Accrington, Morecombe etc etc can get up, why the hell cant we?

Personally not renewing until something changes.

Genuinely feel sad thinking back to the run in last season, some great days in the Spring sun. Fucking rancid right now, just about dragging myself to the CG (and half hoping if were going to lose, can we at least lose early so i can get home earlier). Gave up with aways for this season after Walsall... even the lure of a new ground on Saturday cant tempt me to watch this shite.

[Bob's Orange]

I've listened to a few pods this week (LS, SC and WMS), I only usually listen to the LS Pod regularly.

My opinion on what I've heard:
   1. Pods are run by fans. Some may be more "happy clappy" in nature but I think they have converged on views of what's wrong - or at least the pod contributors have. Even the Supporters Club contributors were somewhat critical yesterday (recruitment, Morrisball, etc). They tried to get Sandro on but haven't been able to.

   2. On the WMS the Bradford EFL twitter guy was on there. Seems he does have some inside track into STFC somehow (maybe just through Whelan)> He said he couldn't say much as it could be detrimental  to STFC, but that those that needed to be held accountable for the recruitment this season are being so.

(I've interpreted this as Sandro out but being done carefully/following a procedure, but who knows.)

   3. Tomato sauce on rice just isn't right.

Which one is WMS out of interest Batch?

I tried the Broadbent one but didn't enjoy it at all. Have to say the LS content is absolutely perfect for me and is the only one I really bother with.

[Batch]

Fooking hell, I meant Fools Rush IN.. WMS. soapy tit wank.  - they do a vlog via twitter and youtube - though I can never get twitter to work. I only very occasionally dip in.

STBL isn't for me. I'm grumpy and they are optimists! Each to their own. Its silly as it doesn't really affect me but I do find myself a bit miffed they seem to have been appointed "club pod". Nothing against the people doing it though.

[Batch]

Spot on. Especially now the debt has been 'cleared'. If Burton, Accrington, Morecombe etc etc can get up, why the hell cant we?

We got it wrong. It's what changes to fix it that counts now. Is this long term shit or a blip.

It takes a while to turn a club around, yet I'm not yet feeling this is what's happening.

[Bob's Orange]

Wise Men Say - they do a vlog via twitter and youtube - though I can never get twitter to work.
I only very occasionally dip in. Annoyingly I can't find the link!

STBL isn't for me. I'm grumpy and they are optimists! Each to their own. Its silly as it doesn't really affect me but I do find myself a bit miffed they seem to have been appointed "club pod". Nothing against the people doing it though.

Is it Fools Rush In you mean? If yes, I've occasionally watched that on Youtube.  it's ok.

Yeah I'm the same as you re the STBL.

[Batch]

yes I do. ooops. Edted.

[Bob's Orange]

yes I do. ooops. Edted.

I did wonder if I had missed a podcast, and I can completely understand why you called it WMS, initially when I was searching on Youtube for it, I did the same as I knew it was 3 words but couldn't remember what they were myself! Logical huh!

[McGurk's Missus]

Hows this one looking btw

https://twitter.com/stfcHanners/status/1556110362046513152

The condescending tone 

These guys just seem like the penis extension that JayBox always wishes he had had done.

I'm sure ''Hanners'' (ffs even that grates on me more than a buck toothed pornstar) is a lovely chap and hindsight and all that bollocks but being so sure of success when you aren't directly connected to a business is such a dick move; even worse is then calling people out for saying they are totally wrong if they think differently.

What makes things a little more annoying is people like this are then given a relatively large platform to spout their bollocks at public events - there are better people to give journalistic opportunities to. But fair fucks for him/them taking said opportunity because when a club takes advantage of securing a cheap gig, you can be sure that the cheap gig will also take advantage of the position/opportunity offered....diminishing professionalism being one of those things.

And if Hanners or any STBL dudes are reading this...

Don’t agree? Your business. Shame you are wrong. Oh so very wrong.