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« Reply #1170 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 18:05:02 » |
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yeah. he booked l killed 2 innocent kids.
the outcome matters
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« Reply #1171 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 18:13:57 » |
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yet on our guest list not there's.
I wonder if it was business as well as pleasure.
Pure guess here but I wonder if its a way of avoiding a conflict of interest on Gills part? Then again if he works for Elite then he probably has Town players on his books as well so that would kybosh that!  Edit: Jacob Wakeling is represented by Elite...so are the Thompson Brothers, Louie Barry and...a certain Joe Tomlinson  |
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« Reply #1172 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 18:22:07 » |
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yeah. he booked l killed 2 innocent kids.
the outcome matters
Not condoning what happened back then with LMc and the point being LMc has continually shown a hell of a lot of remorse for what he caused. Several players (and average dude on the street) who "get lucky" seem to not learn from the err of their ways and repeat offend. Is that because the outcome is different and no one (else) got hurt? Because to me that makes me question their moral standing more than someone like LMc. Of course the outcome definitely matters but surely the approach/mindset from the outset to do the same thing (get in a car and drive it pissed up) and repeatedly get in trouble fro drink related issues over the years is very telling of that person. Are they incapable of learning from the error of their ways or it's quite possible they have an addiction; if it's the former then they are nothing more than a cunt. |
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« Reply #1173 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 18:22:59 » |
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Which is why I made my comment the other week questioning if there would be as much chatter in that regard if Town appoint Morris, as there was with Like McCormick. Morris has been a repeat offender heavily related to drink and got "lucky" when drink driving that he didn't crash into anyone.
We all know what happened with LMc of course.
Richie Wellens got done for drink driving too but nobody mentioned that. Morris - drink driving yes, no excuse Affray - cleared in court - not guilty When did he last repeat offend? 16 years ago? |
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« Reply #1174 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 18:33:05 » |
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Richie Wellens got done for drink driving too but nobody mentioned that.
Morris - drink driving yes, no excuse
Affray - cleared in court - not guilty
When did he last repeat offend? 16 years ago?
I won't do a Reg and look to see if I commented on Wellens at the time or not, in relation to that and I'm not sure if anyone else did. Morris also was charged for rape too (case was dropped due to new evidence arising), the woman never withdrew her allegation. We'll never know for sure but top level Premier League players do tend to have access to some decent solicitors... |
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« Reply #1175 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 18:37:40 » |
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I think the (dropped) rape and sexual assault added to the drink related things make it more distasteful.
Having said that, they are all nearly 20 years ago.
Poor Luke McCormick has had the result of his misdemeanour weighing on his mind for that length of time. But he has done his time and a lot more work to encourage others not to make the same mistake. I have a lot of time for the way he has tried to make amends.
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« Reply #1176 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 18:38:50 » |
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Forensic evidence was why it was dropped wasnt it
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« Reply #1177 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 18:41:01 » |
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Richie Wellens got done for drink driving too but nobody mentioned that.
Morris - drink driving yes, no excuse
Affray - cleared in court - not guilty
When did he last repeat offend? 16 years ago?
If we're going to rule out former players with a couple of incidents of doing something stupid after drinking a decade or more ago our managerial choices are going to be seriously limited. We'd have ruled out Ossie for that Top of the Pops appearance and I wouldn't have forgiven Hoddle for Diamond Lights myself. |
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« Reply #1178 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 18:43:57 » |
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We'd have ruled out Ossie for that Top of the Pops appearance and I wouldn't have forgiven Hoddle for Diamond Lights myself.
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« Reply #1179 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 18:46:46 » |
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If we're going to rule out former players with a couple of incidents of doing something stupid after drinking a decade or more ago our managerial choices are going to be seriously limited.
We'd have ruled out Ossie for that Top of the Pops appearance and I wouldn't have forgiven Hoddle for Diamond Lights myself.
A crime against alcohol and a crime against music! |
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« Reply #1180 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 18:49:21 » |
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I think the (dropped) rape and sexual assault added to the drink related things make it more distasteful.
Having said that, they are all nearly 20 years ago.
Poor Luke McCormick has had the result of his misdemeanour weighing on his mind for that length of time. But he has done his time and a lot more work to encourage others not to make the same mistake. I have a lot of time for the way he has tried to make amends.
This is essentially my standpoint too. I could never speak for anyone else involved but a continued remorse and effort to prevent others from a similar potential outcome has to go a pretty long way. But the LMc conversation has certainly had it's word count over the years, across all written medium and I am weary that if I word my thoughts wrong, then this may upset others and it's not my intention at all... Whilst it's important to have open conversation and difficult questions discussed, this isn't the thread for it; for this reason, I'll bring it back to "New Manager/Proper Manager" relevance... Have we signed Michael Skubala as No. 2 yet?  |
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« Reply #1181 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 18:59:15 » |
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Forensic evidence was why it was dropped wasnt it
New forensic evidence arise apparently, after West Yorks Police were confident of the forensic evidence they had was concrete enough. Can only assume as I don't have/am not privy to all the information, that the defence asked for more/provided more "forensic" evidence and the Crown PS subsequently dropped it. What that further forensic evidence was, we probably will never know but for West Yorkshire to be very confident about a charge turning into a conviction, must have then been a massive knock (mentally) to the person who said they were raped, for it to be dropped. As I say, they never withdrew their allegation. Apologies btw, In just catching up so I'll try and keep it related to "Proper Manager"...on that point I think on paper Morris appears a good coach in his field, so from a professional football point of view, this should be good for the Town. |
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'I'm gonna tell you the secret.
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You smell the gunpowder and you see the blood, you know what that means?
It means you're alive. You've won.
You take the heads so that you don't ever forget.'
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« Reply #1182 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 19:05:17 » |
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If we're going to rule out former players with a couple of incidents of doing something stupid after drinking a decade or more ago our managerial choices are going to be seriously limited.
Which surely says a lot about British football culture then doesn't it? There's a big difference in "doing something stupid" or acting the goat, to actually being arrested (repeatedly), charged and facing court for serious offences. |
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You smell the gunpowder and you see the blood, you know what that means?
It means you're alive. You've won.
You take the heads so that you don't ever forget.'
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« Reply #1183 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 19:09:52 » |
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On the list
Adam Hart’s guest Jake Hall certainly has a colourful past! I see Adam’s had a promotion from ‘helping out the fitness team’ to operations director. That went under the radar… |
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« Reply #1184 on: Saturday, January 28, 2023, 19:10:49 » |
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Adam Hart’s guest Jake Hall certainly has a colourful past!
I see Adam’s had a promotion from ‘helping out the fitness team’ to operations director. That went under the radar…
Like Zav’s fit and proper person test result. |
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