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« Reply #75 on: Sunday, September 18, 2022, 14:35:30 » |
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Steve Morison sacked by Cardiff too.
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« Reply #76 on: Sunday, September 18, 2022, 17:25:56 » |
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Busy weekend, Wayne Brown shown the door at Colchester!
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« Reply #77 on: Monday, September 19, 2022, 03:56:19 » |
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Keith Curle gets the Hartlepool gig.
I thought appointments took 6 weeks
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ibelieveinmrreeves
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« Reply #78 on: Monday, September 19, 2022, 07:04:34 » |
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Wait six weeks or take Keith Curle - what's your preference?
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« Reply #79 on: Monday, September 19, 2022, 09:05:23 » |
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Wait six weeks or take Keith Curle - what's your preference?
6 weeks every time! |
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« Reply #80 on: Monday, September 19, 2022, 09:14:13 » |
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To be fair while we bungled our appointment, to take 6 weeks after actually sacking a manager would be worse
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« Reply #81 on: Monday, September 19, 2022, 09:44:14 » |
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To be fair while we bungled our appointment, to take 6 weeks after actually sacking a manager would be worse
Indeed but if they waited 6 weeks and then STILL appointed Curle would be way worse! |
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« Reply #82 on: Monday, September 19, 2022, 12:37:32 » |
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To be fair while we bungled our appointment, to take 6 weeks after actually sacking a manager would be worse
To be fair though, when we were trying to get a new manager I'm guessing a lot of the candidates were on their holidays as it was off-season |
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« Reply #83 on: Monday, September 19, 2022, 13:20:10 » |
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Not sure that it can be said with any certainty that the appointment was bungled.
Presumably people on here have been subject to an internal promotion at work?
What happens,
a) take whatever package is on the table,
b) insist on the market rate or pay parity with the previous post holder.
c) Take less but negotiate with a view to regular performance related reviews for example.
Options b & c could take some time & try the employers patience depending on how keen they are.
Once in post do people then view themselves as the cheap option?
Probably not, more likely as entirely deserving of the promotion.
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« Reply #84 on: Monday, September 19, 2022, 13:31:11 » |
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Bungled may be the wrong word.
I don't think he was first choice, but that doesn't really matter
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« Reply #85 on: Monday, September 19, 2022, 13:52:49 » |
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To be fair though, when we were trying to get a new manager I'm guessing a lot of the candidates were on their holidays as it was off-season
With their agents? |
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« Reply #86 on: Monday, September 19, 2022, 14:08:10 » |
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Not sure that it can be said with any certainty that the appointment was bungled.
Presumably people on here have been subject to an internal promotion at work?
What happens,
a) take whatever package is on the table,
b) insist on the market rate or pay parity with the previous post holder.
c) Take less but negotiate with a view to regular performance related reviews for example.
Options b & c could take some time & try the employers patience depending on how keen they are.
Once in post do people then view themselves as the cheap option?
Probably not, more likely as entirely deserving of the promotion.
I am sure there some empirical evidence to prove me wrong, but in my experience, internal promotions are indeed often much less costly than recruiting externally and generally quite swift to conclusion. People have far less of a tendency to negotiate with their existing employer and to recruit externally you have two cost factors - first the recruitment costs themselves, and second, the fact you generally have to entice people away from secure employment and you pay a premium to take existing experience (you don't generally recruit someone who is more junior when doing so externally, so there is a bigger salary premium than taking an internal hire who is stepping up). |
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« Reply #87 on: Monday, September 19, 2022, 14:30:50 » |
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I am sure there some empirical evidence to prove me wrong, but in my experience, internal promotions are indeed often much less costly than recruiting externally and generally quite swift to conclusion. People have far less of a tendency to negotiate with their existing employer and to recruit externally you have two cost factors - first the recruitment costs themselves, and second, the fact you generally have to entice people away from secure employment and you pay a premium to take existing experience (you don't generally recruit someone who is more junior when doing so externally, so there is a bigger salary premium than taking an internal hire who is stepping up).
Aye, my own experience was effectively ending up taking on two jobs, saving the employer a packet in the process. Probably common practice at the time. Out of the employment ladder loop for about 7 years with being self employed. Much better work / life balance as a result. So yeah, SL may well have worked out as the cheaper option. He may yet prove to be successful. Don't think that the cheap option appointment should be used as a stck to beat the club with whenever the scenario arises. |
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« Reply #88 on: Monday, September 19, 2022, 15:40:34 » |
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Indeed, I have been the "cheap" option a few times I imagine, but think I have done OK!
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« Reply #89 on: Tuesday, September 20, 2022, 06:19:13 » |
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Hartley hares it from Hartlepool
Only got their pool left? |
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