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« on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 17:56:58 »

King must go. Generally I've always been supportive of King and have defended him against his detractors but I simply cannot think of a single plausible reason for him to stay. We've played 9 games and have only won 2 so far, against two sides who are equally as bad as us, we've failed to score away from home despite having five strikers available to us, our attendances are already falling and took another dive today. Simply put, on our current run of form it'd take a miracle for us to stay up.

After Walsall and Tranmere I could find consolement in the fact that it's plainly obvious that 4-5-1 doesn't work and once we switch back to 4-4-2, our form will pick up and we'll be alright. Today's performance was worse than Tranmere and Walsall, there was simply no quality, no creativity, no marking, poor defending, lack of commitment and we didn't even deserve to score.

King's team today was simply bizarre, deciding to switch back to a 4-4-2 system he decided to drop one of our two natural wingers who was also our best player against Walsall just to keep trio of Stef, Whalley and Pook in the team. Not only that but he selected Cureton - who has done NOTHING in the past few weeks - over Thorpe, who scored a hat-trick for the reserves. Any other manager would have kept Shakes in the team and put Thorpe in ahead of Cureton and if anyone can explain why King chose that team today I'd love to know.

I get the distinct impression that King is losing the plot, constant changing of formations, arguments with fans, bringing back ex-players on loan when we don't really need them and simply confusing team selections all leads me to question whether he even knows what he's doing anymore, or if he's just making it up as he goes along. How are we going to improve when everything our manager does is totally illogical?

The scoreline today does not reflect the game whatsoever, after conceding yet another goal in the first minute we could have gone on to concede two more in the first ten minutes, thankfully Heaton came to our rescue once again. A scoreline of 3-0 or 4-0 would not have been harsh on us whatsoever.

However, we're fucked. King won't step down because he knows he won't find another job and our board won't sack him because we simply don't really have one, there's simply not enough staff to run the football club on a day-to-day basis, let alone run it as a football club that should be moving forward. Currently, they seem more concerned with making people sit down than trying to move the club forward. Basically we're stuck with King, he should walk but he knows that he won't be sacked and if he does leave he won't get another managerial position, he's got us by the bollocks.

As it stands we look like relegation fodder, if we get relegated then this club will cease to exist.

Enjoy it while it lasts.
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« Reply #1 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:03:54 »

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I can't see us being in a relegation struggle at any point this season,


   just last week......you've changed your tune.
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:04:05 »

Totally agree Sonic

We cant afford to keep in him in footballing terms

We cant afford to get rid of him in money terms

Sadly, its Money over Football these days

Andy King is not judged on results
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:05:25 »

very well put agree with all your points. its a desperate situation our club is crumbling and i think a total overhaul is necessary to save it. the board and king must all go. sandy gray doesnt have a clue about football shes an accountant and a crap one at that. even my mate at uni knows how to calculate vat and hes only been training for 2 weeks!
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:06:05 »

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I can't see us being in a relegation struggle at any point this season,


   just last week......you've changed your tune.


That was before seeing the shambles of today though. I was being blindly optimistic thinking that we'd actually win if we played 4-4-2 at home.

I was totally wrong. We're in a relegation struggle now.
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:07:06 »

totally agree with everything you just wrote sonic. today was complete crap. king should be on his way out, but like you said, he wont quit & the board wont sack him. he's here until we're bankrupt  Crying
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:09:11 »

well im going to say that i don't king think king should go. don't just have a groan and moan at me, had enough of that in the town end today.
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:09:53 »

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sonic youth wrote

 
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I can't see us being in a relegation struggle at any point this season,


   just last week......you've changed your tune.


That was before seeing the shambles of today though. I was being blindly optimistic thinking that we'd actually win if we played 4-4-2 at home.

I was totally wrong. We're in a relegation struggle now.


 Right, which has been obvious from the pre season.

 The question is though,  is it for the best to keep King at the helm, who at least has some experience of this sort of thing.....or should it be entrusted to a rookie like Reeeeeeves, who is the only viable option.
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:13:15 »

If King goes, Reeves will be in - and looks whats happened to City since Tinnion.

(But obviously there is little chance of him going)
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:13:53 »

yep, ive always said reeves is the next swindon manager. cheap, easy option.
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:14:27 »

He can't do any worse can he?
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:14:52 »

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the board and king must all go. sandy gray doesnt have a clue about football shes an accountant and a crap one at that. even my mate at uni knows how to calculate vat and hes only been training for 2 weeks!


gray doesnt run the club though, she is just dimandis' spokes person  :x

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The question is though, is it for the best to keep King at the helm, who at least has some experience of this sort of thing.....or should it be entrusted to a rookie like Reeeeeeves, who is the only viable option.


give woan & onuora the job. they both seem to know what they're doing. probably take training most days anyway. king just does the tactics (or lack of them). they won the league & cup with the youths last year too.
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:15:35 »

Agree with all of that Sonic. All of my pre-season optimism has now evaporated Sad
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:16:32 »

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If King goes, Reeves will be in - and looks whats happened to City since Tinnion.

(But obviously there is little chance of him going)


Reeves would do a much better job than Kingy EASY.
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday, September 10, 2005, 18:16:43 »

Honestly, I'm at the point where I dont care who the fuck we get in.

Even Reeves seems a huge improvement at the moment
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