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« Reply #15 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 10:25:33 »

Ainít that the truth. Wonder how weíd get on in L1 playing as we do.
TBH I think every team we have played so far in L2 barring Scunthorpe who were dreadful, should probably have scored at least 2 goals witht he chances created.

We seem to be putting away most of the clear cut chances we have created so though, last season we created a similar number of chances per game but almost every time the opposition had a shot it went in or every mistake we made was capitalized upon too.

I think thats THE main difference between teams in L1 and L2, which is why a team with a good 20+ goal scorer in their team will almost always be challenging near the top of L2, not that every team who finish top or near the top will have one of those players but fringe sides who do have one will have a good season (Cambridge with Mullins last year, Tranmere with Norwood before that etc) you could also argue that we wouldnt have won the league without Doyles goals.
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« Reply #16 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 10:35:44 »

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« Reply #17 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 10:53:25 »

Strange how stats donít tell anywhere near the right story



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« Reply #18 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 11:11:34 »

Strange how stats donít tell anywhere near the right story

Alternative data sources don't really agree - https://twitter.com/xG_data/status/1431891875062030337

I'm generally more positive on xG than most on here, but I suspect at L2 level the data gathering is... not as comprehensive as it might be in the top tiers.
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« Reply #19 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 11:14:00 »

Hereís another one

Most carries* per 90 (LG2: 2021/22) 🤤⤵️

19 - Liam Feeney
18 - Alex Newby
18 - Harry McKirdy
18 - Charles Vernam
18 - Jack Payne
18 - Abraham Odoh
16 - Dylan Bahamboula
15 - Callum McManaman
15 - Kaine Kesler

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« Reply #20 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 11:20:55 »

Interesting stuff; although football stats are a little more subjective than, say, cricket stats. And as some have said; they don't always tell the whole story. e.g. shots 'on' and 'target'; speculative soft shot easily gathered by keeper = Shot On target. Screamer hits the post with keeper well beaten = Shot Off Target. Also, who collates all this stuff? Assume someone somewhere must have the job of watching on video every minute of every game with a list of all the players?
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« Reply #21 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 11:42:19 »

The only stats that matter are the ones that appear in the league table.

We seem to be most dangerous when we turn over possession and do short sharp passing moves to get into dangerous positions which make the passing stats a bit of red herring. All these passes from Conroy and 10 plus passing moves are invariably sideways and backwards inside our own half until invariably we end up boxed in and effectively have to just get rid. I get why we do it to try and get control of the game but in an attacking sense itís achieving very little and a lot of the passing just seems to be passing for the sake of it and taking unnecessary risks at the back.
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« Reply #22 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 12:22:03 »

is Callum McManaman son of/related to Steve?
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« Reply #23 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 12:48:43 »

is Callum McManaman son of/related to Steve?

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« Reply #24 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 12:49:03 »

Distant relative
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« Reply #25 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 12:50:39 »

is Callum McManaman son of/related to Steve?
Nope, not close.
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« Reply #26 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 13:52:10 »

ah ok
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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 13:04:23 »

Interesting to see the stats on a monthly basis as the season goes on, per match doesn't tell a story but I'm sure over a month we may see some sort of pattern emerging
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« Reply #28 on: Monday, September 6, 2021, 12:40:45 »

Chances created (LG2: 2021/22) 🪄⤵️

42 - Rochdale
41 - Bradford
37 - Leyton Orient
35 - Salford
34 - Mansfield
33 - Swindon
33 - Harrogate
32 - Forest Green
32 - Northampton
30 - Bristol Rovers
27 - Oldham
26 - Exeter

Most chances created (LG2: 2021/22) 🧙‍♂️👇

12 - Stephen McLaughlin
10 - Callum Cooke
9 - Aaron Morley
9 - Andy Cook
9 - Theo Archibald
9 - Jack Payne
8 - Sam Hoskins
8 - George Thomson
8 - Josh Morris
7 - Charles Vernam
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« Reply #29 on: Monday, September 6, 2021, 12:47:17 »

As somebody else mentioned already, 'chance' is ambiguous.

It might mean having only the keeper to beat in the box or a speculative shot from distance. Seeing how many 'chances' other teams have against us may also add some perspective.

Don't get me wrong, I think we need more urgency, but I don't think stats tell the whole story.
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