Flitcroft

[Exiled Bob]

A lot of the time it was pretty shit under Macari as well. Until it all clicked into place....

[Not that Nice If I'm Honest]

A lot of the time it was pretty shit under Macari as well. Until it all clicked into place....

But it did click...............and then we were pretty much unplayable

And then Ardiles came in and we all shit ourselves when defenders started passing in their own box !
And then that clicked.............

Then Hoddle came in ..........etc

Maybe I'm part of the spoilt generation, who saw those three managers.

(and lets not forget Paolo)

[jayohaitchenn]

Sturrock's football was far better than this. At least we had wingers and attacking full backs.

[pauld]

Sturrock's football was far better than this. At least we had wingers and attacking full backs.

Yup. And the standard in League 2 was much much better. But we are in the League 2 we are in, if Flitcroft's ugly football gets us out of it, I'm all for it.
Although, if it doesn't he's a complete tosser who should have been sacked in October

[Reg Smeeton]

Yup. And the standard in League 2 was much much better.

I remember some pretty terrible games back in 06/07.   Sturrock knew though how to get out of Div 4. When he did it with Plymuff their leading score was Coughlin the centre half with 11.

[Batch]

Sturrock knew though how to get out of Div 4

God that last day game V Walsall, about 60 minutes of action and a gentleman's agreement for 30 to ensure a double celebration!

Anyway, even Sturrock didn't walk it. But he did the job.

[pauld]

I remember some pretty terrible games back in 06/07. 

There were indeed, but I'd still say the standard overall was much better than it is now. Maybe rose-tinted specs on my part?

[adje]

Sturrock's football was far better than this. At least we had wingers and attacking full backs.

....and Blair Sturrock! Better than Norris?

[Posh Red]

God that last day game V Walsall, about 60 minutes of action and a gentleman's agreement for 30 to ensure a double celebration!

Anyway, even Sturrock didn't walk it. But he did the job.

Are you sure you’re not confusing that with Hartlepool in 2004.

Walsall scored in the 90th minute to get their draw, whereas Hartlepool equalised in the 71st minute.
That say both of us make the playoffs at the expense of Port Vale on goal difference

[Reg Smeeton]

God that last day game V Walsall, about 60 minutes of action and a gentleman's agreement for 30 to ensure a double celebration!

Anyway, even Sturrock didn't walk it. But he did the job.

Of course, the notion that the standard was higher in 06/07 is fanciful. 

9 of the teams we competed against are now in the Conference or worse. Darlo, Boston, Hereford, have dropped below Conference N/S. HPool, Torquay and Chester may soon join Stockport in Confeernce N/S. None of the teams are higher than Div 3.

Reality is that Div 4 this year is like Div 4 11 years ago.

[Batch]

Are you sure you’re not confusing that with Hartlepool in 2004.

Walsall scored in the 90th minute to get their draw, whereas Hartlepool equalised in the 71st minute.
That say both of us make the playoffs at the expense of Port Vale on goal difference

I am too.

Remembered we needed a draw v Walsall and somehow morphed it in to the other game. Stupid memory.

[pauld]

Of course, the notion that the standard was higher in 06/07 is fanciful. 

9 of the teams we competed against are now in the Conference or worse. Darlo, Boston, Hereford, have dropped below Conference N/S. HPool, Torquay and Chester may soon join Stockport in Confeernce N/S. None of the teams are higher than Div 3.

But that's not because of how good/bad they were at football in 06-07. At least two of those (Hereford and Hartlepool) have been laid low by our ex-owner's cabal, rather than because they played shit football 10 years ago. Chester have undergone a complete revolution after the malfeasance of the Vaughans, Torquay have been laid waste by their former benefactor dying or losing interest (I forget which) and ending up in the hands of a developer who's just after their stadium. None of that is anything to do with how well/badly they played 10 years ago.

[Peter Venkman]

malfeasance

Congratulations, you win "word of the day"

[pauld]

Congratulations, you win "word of the day"

I'm so proud

[Reg Smeeton]

But that's not because of how good/bad they were at football in 06-07. At least two of those (Hereford and Hartlepool) have been laid low by our ex-owner's cabal, rather than because they played shit football 10 years ago. Chester have undergone a complete revolution after the malfeasance of the Vaughans, Torquay have been laid waste by their former benefactor dying or losing interest (I forget which) and ending up in the hands of a developer who's just after their stadium. None of that is anything to do with how well/badly they played 10 years ago.

I would suggest that having a well run club tends to produce a decent side, whereas conversely, having a poorly run club tends to produce a poor side.  There may be the odd spell whereby it can work differently, and sometimes appearances can be deceptive, like our Hillier/Macari era years.

However I would agree that sometimes leagues are obviously a bit stronger than usual. Such a case would have been Wilson's PO season. where you had us, Norwich, Millwall, Charlton, Leeds, Uddersfield, and Soton  battling it out at the top.