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« Reply #210 on: Wednesday, September 9, 2015, 17:45:25 » |
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Let's not confuse immigrants with asylum seekers...
On the flip side of Reg's stat, over 300,000 people emigrated from the UK last year....
Leaving a nett increase of approx 330k as released a week or so ago. So our population increased by Coventry last year. It was 300k the year before. |
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Reg Smeeton
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« Reply #211 on: Wednesday, September 9, 2015, 17:46:56 » |
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Let's not confuse immigrants with asylum seekers...
On the flip side of Reg's stat, over 300,000 people emigrated from the UK last year....
That's right approx 600,000 came in 300,000 went out so a net gain of 300,000. |
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« Reply #212 on: Wednesday, September 9, 2015, 17:48:20 » |
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So, I presume Germany had a largish number of immigrants too. Add 800,000 to that and it's a massive influx
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« Reply #213 on: Wednesday, September 9, 2015, 17:50:27 » |
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Leaving a nett increase of approx 330k as released a week or so ago. So our population increased by Coventry last year. It was 300k the year before.
Yeah, I worked that out. Just pointing out it's not all one way traffic. Why I've even contributed to Reg's deviation of this thread into the migrant situation I don't know. I thought it was about refugees! |
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« Reply #214 on: Wednesday, September 9, 2015, 17:51:29 » |
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That's right approx 600,000 came in 300,000 went out so a net gain of 300,000.
And how has that affected you Reg? |
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« Reply #215 on: Wednesday, September 9, 2015, 17:52:45 » |
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So, I presume Germany had a largish number of immigrants too. Add 800,000 to that and it's a massive influx
Germany is trying to catch up....they've only just awarded citizenship to the old Turkish guest workers. |
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« Reply #216 on: Wednesday, September 9, 2015, 19:16:27 » |
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That's right approx 600,000 came in 300,000 went out so a net gain of 300,000.
A figure which doesn't include asylum seekers and of course, illegal immigrants. |
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« Reply #217 on: Wednesday, September 9, 2015, 19:23:09 » |
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A figure which doesn't include asylum seekers and of course, illegal immigrants.
I don't think you'd get anyone defending illegal immigrants. |
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« Reply #218 on: Wednesday, September 9, 2015, 20:28:02 » |
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I don't think you'd get anyone defending illegal immigrants.
But surely a person entering a country, from a safe country, without being subjected to the legally approved process, and using means to circumvent that process, can only be described as an illegal immigrant? Anyone leaving Turkey and illegally entering another neighbouring country, without subjecting themselves to the normal means of entry, should be correctly described as an illegal immigrant surely? Turkey is a safe country according to the United Nations. Therefore, every single man, woman and child who put themselves into the Aegean, at night, in a fucking rubber dinghy, is not a a refugee but something else... |
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« Reply #219 on: Wednesday, September 9, 2015, 22:42:42 » |
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But surely a person entering a country, from a safe country, without being subjected to the legally approved process, and using means to circumvent that process, can only be described as an illegal immigrant?
Anyone leaving Turkey and illegally entering another neighbouring country, without subjecting themselves to the normal means of entry, should be correctly described as an illegal immigrant surely?
Turkey is a safe country according to the United Nations.
Therefore, every single man, woman and child who put themselves into the Aegean, at night, in a fucking rubber dinghy, is not a a refugee but something else...
Absolutely 100% fucking correct. |
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« Reply #220 on: Thursday, September 10, 2015, 04:52:00 » |
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Huge difference between an illegal immigrant, whose sole reason for going to a foreign country is economic and a refugee.
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« Reply #221 on: Thursday, September 10, 2015, 06:49:29 » |
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I think Ironsides has explained the difference pretty much spot on
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« Reply #222 on: Thursday, September 10, 2015, 07:09:11 » |
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Huge difference between an illegal immigrant, whose sole reason for going to a foreign country is economic and a refugee.
Which bit of my explanation is confusing you? |
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« Reply #223 on: Thursday, September 10, 2015, 07:54:04 » |
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Probably the fact that you've massively oversimplified a complex situation, and started arguing about semantics. At a guess.
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« Reply #224 on: Thursday, September 10, 2015, 07:57:01 » |
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Which bit of my explanation is confusing you?
There's not point in discussing anything with you if you can't acknowledge the difference between the two. I wonder, if you had kids and had to flee a country ripped apart by civil war; only to find yourself in a camp with 10's of 1000's of other 'illegal immigrants', with little sanitation, accommodation and no prospect of supporting your kids, or giving them the basics, wouldn't you try and go where you could? |
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