The refugee crisis.

[Bogus Dave]

I don't really understand the narrative that hoardes are swarming to get to the UK. In 2015:

7.6 million Syrians have been internally displaced (living in Syria but forced out of their own homes)

4.9 million have moved to neighbouring countries. Of this, 1.9 million into Turkey and 1.1 million accepted into Lebanon (a country with less than 4.5 million inhabitants)

349,000 have applied for asylum in Europe. 98,730 in Germany, 49 thousand in Serbia and Kosovo, 15 000 in Bulgaria to say a few.

2,204 Syrians have applied for asylum in the UK this year. 0.63% of the total in Europe. 0.04% of all Syrians that have been forced from their country this year have tried to live in the United Kingdom. It's literally nothing. Cameron has agreed to allow 4,000 a year until 2020. There are 433 councils in the UK - that's less than 10 people a council. I really don't understand why this is getting such a backlash, the figures are minuscule in the grand scheme of things

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34183150

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/09/08/438539779/the-migrant-crisis-by-the-numbers

[herthab]

I don't really understand the narrative that hoardes are swarming to get to the UK. In 2015:

7.6 million Syrians have been internally displaced (living in Syria but forced out of their own homes)

4.9 million have moved to neighbouring countries. Of this, 1.9 million into Turkey and 1.1 million accepted into Lebanon (a country with less than 4.5 million inhabitants)

349,000 have applied for asylum in Europe. 98,730 in Germany, 49 thousand in Serbia and Kosovo, 15 000 in Bulgaria to say a few.

2,204 Syrians have applied for asylum in the UK this year. 0.63% of the total in Europe. 0.04% of all Syrians that have been forced from their country this year have tried to live in the United Kingdom. It's literally nothing. Cameron has agreed to allow 4,000 a year until 2020. There are 433 councils in the UK - that's less than 10 people a council. I really don't understand why this is getting such a backlash, the figures are minuscule in the grand scheme of things

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34183150

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/09/08/438539779/the-migrant-crisis-by-the-numbers

All the above sounds like a reasoned and logical summation.

I don't trust it.

[JayBox325]

All the above sounds like a reasoned and logical summation.

I don't trust it.

[Reg Smeeton]

I don't really understand the narrative that hoardes are swarming to get to the UK.

Would hordes help understanding?

[deltaincline]

I've read about 7 or 8 of the pages on this thread.

There's plenty of dick-waving, insults and know-all political bullshit, as well as well as a few ignorant cunts with opinions that were obviously formed by the twitterati and the Daily Mail.

If a family of refugees (or kids, singles, couples, grandparents or whatever) needed shelter in my area, I'd offer them a home regardless of where they are from.

I'd do everything in my power to make them safe, clean, sheltered, dignified and fed. Anything more than that such as getting them schooled, working etc, well, we'd have to see what was needed and what was available to them at the time.

As long as they respected me, my family and my property, they'd be made welcome and I'd be happy to use my own money to fund it.

My logic is that if I were in the shit like a lot of these poor fuckers are, I'd hope that someone somewhere would have the humanity and kindness do the same for me and my family, no different than the families who looked after thousands of evacuees during the war.

I wouldn't want thanking for it and I wouldn't crow about it. I'd be really pissed off if my new house guests didn't at least become life long friends after they'd got themselves back on their feet after the adventure though.

The media have raised awareness about all this, which fair enough.

I don't need reminding by having a fucking banner being floated around the crowd during a football match by people who seem intent of foisting their good intentions on everyone else, however good they may be.

Don't get me wrong, the happy-clapper guy is entitled to organise fun stuff, but he should stick to the happy-clappy and leave the political stuff alone.

[horlock07]

Woken this morning to a racial storm on Faceache (West Oxfordshire seems to have become some manner of racial hotbed since I left - does it have some manner of immigration problem?) apparently if Britain's First are to be believed (it is apparently the most shocking video I will ever see - which it was due to its degree of sheer bollocks) by around 2025 we will be a Muslim state and its all down to immigration and our dropping birth rates - which I see as a simple challenge - we should all be having much more sex, its all our fault, I am just glad we have them to point this out to us, we are sleep walking into a crisis whilst we should actually be banging like a shithouse door out of it!

[tans]

Sounds like that 'debate' on the swindon fans group on facebook

[Samdy Gray]

Facebook is full of driveling morons spouting racist bullshit at the best of times, but the coverage of the Syrian refugees seems to have amplified it to another level.

It's been great unfriending so many people this week. Although, I really should just stop using Facebook.

[Reg Smeeton]

 So what are individuals thoughts on the execution of British subjects by the government, who've made the reverse journey to Syria? 

 

[horlock07]

Facebook is full of driveling morons spouting racist bullshit at the best of times, but the coverage of the Syrian refugees seems to have amplified it to another level.

It's been great unfriending so many people this week. Although, I really should just stop using Facebook.

Why its like watching a long drawn out car accident unfolding in front of your eyes, the real shock I am getting at the moment is how many people I went to school with in Burford appears to be insanely angry about this refugee thing? As I mentioned before has West Oxfordshire suddenly developed race hate issues or is it just they are all incredibly ill informed and paranoid as they have never actually left the Shire?

[Sippo]

So what are individuals thoughts on the execution of British subjects by the government, who've made the reverse journey to Syria? 

 

They made the choice to join the IS so pay the consequences. British or not, they were a threat.

[JayBox325]

Here's a really interesting article looking at what refugees have in their bags for their trips.

https://medium.com/@theIRC/what-s-in-my-bag-758d435f6e62

Heartbreaking to read “I hope we die. This life is not worth to live anymore. Everyone closed the door in our face, there is no future.”

 

[4D]

So what are individuals thoughts on the execution of British subjects by the government, who've made the reverse journey to Syria? 

No sympathy from me.

[Skinny Pete]

So what are individuals thoughts on the execution of British subjects by the government, who've made the reverse journey to Syria? 

 

Execution seems to show what camp you're in, Reg.

What difference does them being 'British' make when the killing is wholesale? I don't doubt for a minute, given the chance, they would murder you in your bed.

[Reg Smeeton]

Execution seems to show what camp you're in, Reg.

What difference does them being 'British' make when the killing is wholesale? I don't doubt for a minute, given the chance, they would murder you in your bed.

Don't interpret my thoughts on the basis of a question.  It's just that a question.