The refugee crisis.

[JayBox325]

Here's something positive you could do. Donate that money you raise for a pathetic little rag to something that might make a difference somewhere.

I don't give a fuck what cause you choose to donate it to, whether I agree with it or not, but put it somewhere where even 10% of it might make a difference to someone, somewhere,  instead of lining the pockets of a printing firm.

Honestly, people like you are so misguided it's laughable.

Right, I tried to raise £40 to buy fabric and paint. That's it, but instead here's our current total: http://www.gofundme.com/stfc_refugees

At time of writing it's over £200. All that's left is going to be donated to a fundraiser to directly help the refugees. Clubs all over the country have fans holding banners up on the 12th. So if 10% of the 8,000 at Barnsley donate or talk about it, we've succeeded. If 10% of the people who read about it in the Independent, Guardian or BBC Wiltshire, we've succeeded.

Not all of us can take the time out to drive to Calais or run a collection for things, so we can only do what's possibly within our means.

And the insults later on in the feed, mate... "JayGay"? Very clever, although "GayBox" is what people usually go for.

[Reg Smeeton]

Right, I tried to raise £40 to buy fabric and paint. That's it, but instead here's our current total: http://www.gofundme.com/stfc_refugees

At time of writing it's over £200. All that's left is going to be donated to a fundraiser to directly help the refugees. Clubs all over the country have fans holding banners up on the 12th. So if 10% of the 8,000 at Barnsley donate or talk about it, we've succeeded. If 10% of the people who read about it in the Independent, Guardian or BBC Wiltshire, we've succeeded.

Not all of us can take the time out to drive to Calais or run a collection for things, so we can only do what's possibly within our means.

And the insults later on in the feed, mate... "JayGay"? Very clever, although "GayBox" is what people usually go for.

Why would you want to drive to Calais to help refugees?

Atm there are an estimated 3 million refugees from Syria rightfully in camps  in neighbouring countries, including Iraq...plenty of scope to help them out.

[Nemo]

We had less fucking fuss about the Irreducibli banner and they're a bunch of fascist thugs. But I suppose they have a link to football so that's all a-ok.

[JayBox325]

Why would you want to drive to Calais to help refugees?

Atm there are an estimated 3 million refugees from Syria rightfully in camps  in neighbouring countries, including Iraq...plenty of scope to help them out.

That's just an example. I know people are driving there to drop donated stuff off. The location wasn't the point. The point was we can't help physically, so we do what we can.

[Reg Smeeton]

That's just an example. I know people are driving there to drop donated stuff off. The location wasn't the point. The point was we can't help physically, so we do what we can.

The Calais camps are full of economic migrants, not refugees.

You might be interested in this.....

Despite Bath being a World Heritage Site, we recognise that there is a problem of homelessness in our city.

Our Lifeline Centre, a drop-in centre for rough sleepers, receives approximately 30 adults every day, despite only being open for two hours each weekday.

Given the likely impact of IDS's benefit cuts, doubtless this number will be growing, and will likely include migrants and refugees.

Also it's on a scale where relatively small efforts can make a genuine difference....

Here's their website  http://www.homelessinbath.com/genesis-trust-lifeline-centre.html

[horlock07]

The Calais camps are full of economic migrants, not refugees.

You might be interested in this.....

Given the likely impact of IDS's benefit cuts, doubtless this number will be growing, and will likely include migrants and refugees.

Also it's on a scale where relatively small efforts can make a genuine difference....

Here's their website  http://www.homelessinbath.com/genesis-trust-lifeline-centre.html

 

[JayBox325]

The Calais camps are full of economic migrants, not refugees.

You might be interested in this.....

Given the likely impact of IDS's benefit cuts, doubtless this number will be growing, and will likely include migrants and refugees.

Also it's on a scale where relatively small efforts can make a genuine difference....

Here's their website  http://www.homelessinbath.com/genesis-trust-lifeline-centre.html

Thanks. I'm aware of that, cause I live here. We have had some projects running recently to help the situation. So you're saying that I'm not allowed to try and do what I can to help the refugee crisis because the city I live in has some homeless people?

I don't see what the problem is? It's just a banner. It's not hurting a single person. It's doing no harm whatsoever.

[Jamiesfuturewife]

The Calais camps are full of economic migrants, not refugees.

You might be interested in this.....

Given the likely impact of IDS's benefit cuts, doubtless this number will be growing, and will likely include migrants and refugees.

Also it's on a scale where relatively small efforts can make a genuine difference....

Here's their website  http://www.homelessinbath.com/genesis-trust-lifeline-centre.html

Reg, this group were collecting donations and items they required at the food and river festival in Maelksham yesterday - I'm making up some toiletry bags and dropping them at the town hall this week. It's not much but I want to feel like I'm doing something.

I've just watched a couple on this morning who have been opening their house to refugees and trafficked people for 10 years - such an amazing couple

[JayBox325]

Ironically this just popped up on my feed: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/we-need-to-look-after-our-own-first-say-people-who-would-never-help-anyone-20150907101741

[Nemo]

Ironically this just popped up on my feed: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/we-need-to-look-after-our-own-first-say-people-who-would-never-help-anyone-20150907101741

Has the Daily Mash launched a serious news service? Only that entire article appears to be spot on. Honestly, the number of people saying "charity begins at home" with the clear subtext that it should finish there too is depressing as anything.

[Reg Smeeton]

Thanks. I'm aware of that, cause I live here. We have had some projects running recently to help the situation. So you're saying that I'm not allowed to try and do what I can to help the refugee crisis because the city I live in has some homeless people?

I don't see what the problem is? It's just a banner. It's not hurting a single person. It's doing no harm whatsoever.

No I'm saying that if you've got a few spare quid from your efforts, then much better to throw them at a small project on your doorstep....than the millions of refugees from Syria.

UK, through our taxes already donates the UN agreed 0.7% of GDP in aid to that end....interestingly only a couple of other countries match this effort....

[Honkytonk]

This opinion that if you feel you should do something suddenly, you must support every single charity is one I have seen and heard spouted over and over and over. If you feel an affinity with a cause and want to put your time money and effort into it then you are doing enough. You don't have to support every single charity out there. For most people, giving to charity is a selfless act that removes some luxuries from their life so they can feel they have helped somehow.

The homeless situation in Bath is in no way on the same scale as the current migrant crisis. Why the hell should anyone dictate which cause you can and cannot give to?

[Reg Smeeton]

This opinion that if you feel you should do something suddenly, you must support every single charity is one I have seen and heard spouted over and over and over. If you feel an affinity with a cause and want to put your time money and effort into it then you are doing enough. You don't have to support every single charity out there. For most people, giving to charity is a selfless act that removes some luxuries from their life so they can feel they have helped somehow.

The homeless situation in Bath is in no way on the same scale as the current migrant crisis. Why the hell should anyone dictate which cause you can and cannot give to?

I don't think making a suggestion is dictating.....

To go back to the original point....would it be appropriate at a Help For Heroes charity fundraiser the like of which we've had at the CG, for someone in the TE to raise a lets wipe out ISIS banner, as the former Archbishop of Canterbury was asking for yesterday?

[horlock07]

Bloody hell its getting more and more like Facebook on here by the hour...

[Nemo]

Bloody hell its getting more and more like Facebook on here by the hour...

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