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« Reply #30 on: Thursday, January 22, 2015, 21:34:15 »

Yes and I never tire of pointing out the bleeding obvious, like Swansea and Wigan get used for rugby, arguably... certainly in the case of Wigan the bigger sport in the Town.  When Ospreys play Scarlets in the egg chasing local derby, they get just about 20,000.
The Ospreys have had two crowds over 10,000 this season, both local derbies.  Every other crowd has been less than 8,000 (sound familiar?).  Over the decade or so at the Liberty, they've averaged around 8,000 - which fuels an ongoing soul searching in Welsh rugby - has it been choked by regionalisation? 

All most interesting, but there's no question as to who the top dogs at and biggest beneficiaries of the upgrade to the Liberty are....
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« Reply #31 on: Thursday, January 22, 2015, 21:40:11 »




You use readings catchment area as an example but not Swindons catchment area!! Are you trying to say that all town fans come from the Swindon borough.we have a huge catchment area as far as Gloucester to the north west and right down into whiltshire to the south.

And London to the west..
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« Reply #32 on: Thursday, January 22, 2015, 21:46:44 »

If we were to redevelop the CG, then we would assume to keep the DRS and Arkells which is around 11,000 of current capacity. We would assume that the Town End would be the most suitable to increase from say 2000 to 4000 to build a stand of the height of the other 2 stands with some executive type facilities and maximise the space behind for revenue generation.

Stratton Bank you would probably want to keep at least theame number or maybe up to around 3000. You could split that 1500 away for most games and then for bigger games give it all to away.

That would take you to 17000 which would cover our needs in if we were in the Championship or big cup games. It wouldn't make the ground look too out of place with the existing footprint and give it a balanced feel.
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« Reply #33 on: Thursday, January 22, 2015, 22:36:47 »

Isn't it at about 15,500 now? That would seem to be a lot of outlay for little return, if my memory is correct.
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« Reply #34 on: Thursday, January 22, 2015, 22:45:41 »

It's 14500 now, but the outlay, as has been done to death, is about 7-day-a-week revenue, not capacity.
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« Reply #35 on: Thursday, January 22, 2015, 23:07:11 »

If we get to the championship then we'd easily average over 10k a game,  given the promotion factor,  the increase in away support, the fact that fans that use to attend might have a sniff of interest. Yes, I'm one of those latent fans Reg. 13 to 14k crowds would be more common at that level.
I think we're very similar to a club like Swansea.
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« Reply #36 on: Thursday, January 22, 2015, 23:15:11 »

Ha there is allsorts over the web, from 14700 to 15700. I thought it was 14600 and then Jed put some shooting sticks in the pitch to make it over 15k for the Chelsea game. I guess I'm saying the amount we would expect in the Championship if we get there, is he ground is sufficient, unless we d really well.
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« Reply #37 on: Friday, January 23, 2015, 09:17:44 »

Surely the fact we can only attract 8000 when top of the league and playing some of the best football for years puts the kibosh on thinking we'd get much more than 10,000 in the Championship...

We should be getting 10,000 now
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« Reply #38 on: Friday, January 23, 2015, 09:26:36 »

We averaged a touch under 7k last time we were in the Championship, ok that was a car crash of a season but none of the 3 seasons before that produced a 10k average either.
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« Reply #39 on: Friday, January 23, 2015, 10:07:14 »

Surely the fact we can only attract 8000 when top of the league and playing some of the best football for years puts the kibosh on thinking we'd get much more than 10,000 in the Championship...

We should be getting 10,000 now

Completely disagree.  We have been outside of the top 2 divisions for 15 years, and have done nothing to the ground for 20 years.  Averaging 8,000 at home for a club in that position is impressive.  I think a lot of folk seriously under-estimate the effect that getting back to the 'big time' (it's all relative) will have.  It's been that long that we've lost sight of what football at that level is all about.
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« Reply #40 on: Friday, January 23, 2015, 10:22:43 »

Exactly. Plus most clubs in this division bring less than 500 fans.
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« Reply #41 on: Friday, January 23, 2015, 10:29:59 »

Surely the fact we can only attract 8000 when top of the league and playing some of the best football for years puts the kibosh on thinking we'd get much more than 10,000 in the Championship...

We should be getting 10,000 now

Lets have a think about this, asking your mates if they fancy going to watch town against any of the following:

Crawley, Rochdale, Colchester, Fleetwood etc etc. You could probably list the majority of league 1 to be honest

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Leeds, Fulham, Norwich, N Forest, Cardiff etc. We have shown time and again in the cups etc that we have enough fans to come out of the woodwork for big games. The championship would have that feel most weeks.
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« Reply #42 on: Friday, January 23, 2015, 10:40:05 »

People, in the main, don't go to watch the opposition - glam FA Cup ties notwithstanding.

If any increase in attendances comes about just because there are more away fans defeats the object.

The club will only progress on the back of an increase in Swindon fans  attending.

People around here are pretty much apathetic about most things - not just football
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« Reply #43 on: Friday, January 23, 2015, 11:40:21 »

Lets have a think about this, asking your mates if they fancy going to watch town against any of the following:

Crawley, Rochdale, Colchester, Fleetwood etc etc. You could probably list the majority of league 1 to be honest

vs:

Leeds, Fulham, Norwich, N Forest, Cardiff etc. We have shown time and again in the cups etc that we have enough fans to come out of the woodwork for big games. The championship would have that feel most weeks.

Doubtless there'd be a bit of bounce, due to novelty...but we've played most of these relatively recently....Leeds game got 14508, for a midweek, Norwich 11972, when they like us were going well.  A bit back Forest 8,108, Cardiff 7,500.

If we did go up for  next season, I reckon average gate would be around 9,000.
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« Reply #44 on: Friday, January 23, 2015, 14:33:02 »

We would 100% average 10k in championship even if home numbers stay the same, away followings are so much larger. We usually get 300-400 most weekends, that number would be at least 1000 for everyone and add in a few 2500 followings.

If we went up, more of our fans would watch as I'm bored of watching us against the likes of crawley, colchester etc
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