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« Reply #12345 on: Sunday, August 7, 2022, 18:44:06 »

I wonder If Robert Buckland follows the forum and reports back to HOC😀

Like I give a fuck. 😉
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« Reply #12346 on: Sunday, August 7, 2022, 18:46:25 »

Like I give a fuck. 😉

You don't normally swear😀
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« Reply #12347 on: Sunday, August 7, 2022, 19:12:24 »

Electricity providers are allowed to cut you off (with 7 days notice) 28 days after not paying your bill. Whilst the idea is to hold out as long as possible, even if some people cancelled their direct debits and then reinstated them before the 28 days it would still make a point and mess up their predictions and cash flow enough to make them notice and act. You don't have to go extreme if you don't want to. Come on, fuck these companies. Their profits and pollution are insane.
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« Reply #12348 on: Sunday, August 7, 2022, 21:47:20 »

You don't normally swear😀

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« Reply #12349 on: Sunday, August 7, 2022, 21:49:01 »

Electricity providers are allowed to cut you off (with 7 days notice) 28 days after not paying your bill. Whilst the idea is to hold out as long as possible, even if some people cancelled their direct debits and then reinstated them before the 28 days it would still make a point and mess up their predictions and cash flow enough to make them notice and act. You don't have to go extreme if you don't want to. Come on, fuck these companies. Their profits and pollution are insane.

You go first then.
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« Reply #12350 on: Monday, August 8, 2022, 10:11:55 »

I'm saying there's a way to make your point without any negative implications. But yeah, sit there and don't act if you're sufficiently scared by nothing.
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« Reply #12351 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 10:13:03 »

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And potential repercussions. Personally, I would cave before these become possible.



I'm not sure about the 3rd point there, about changing tariff. If I cancelled my direct debit today (for any reason), they wouldn't change my tariff.
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« Reply #12352 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 11:04:39 »

Thanks for posting that, i'm glad they are pointing out the potential risks, as it would be awful it people ended up with CCJ's, paying more on higher tariffs as they didn't realise the risks.

Also good you've pointed out what people can do (and a lot of people would also cave like you have said you would do before they became possible).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62475171

Costs to be over £4.2k in January. Surely the Government can't wait until a new prime minister is installed to say anything. Get Liz Truss,Rishi Sunak, Boris etc together and agree something now for whoever is the PM.

I'm going back into the office full time in the Autumn (been working at home since Covid started). I probably won't be the only one. Will save heating my home in the day, and also running a laptop, screen's etc in the day as well. Still going to be difficult, but it will get my usage down a bit.
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« Reply #12353 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 11:10:12 »

Surely the Government can't wait until a new prime minister is installed to say anything. Get Liz Truss, Rishi Sunak, Boris etc together and agree something now for whoever is the PM.

Quite. Get Starmer in the room if they're worried about political blowback, this is heading towards being a proper national emergency and the government is asleep at the wheel.
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« Reply #12354 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 11:37:30 »


I'm going back into the office full time in the Autumn (been working at home since Covid started). I probably won't be the only one. Will save heating my home in the day, and also running a laptop, screen's etc in the day as well. Still going to be difficult, but it will get my usage down a bit.

That could well be an underlying factor in any decision NOT to take action.  The UK govt's position was to have people return back to their old ways of working due to the economic shock it has brought about on Commercial Real Estate.

In terms of the bills, the company sending that to you is likely making very little in profit because the price cap has only ever related to retail and not wholesale pricing.  It's the company extracting/producing that have been milking the prices caused by energy being traded like a commodity.  They had a bit of a case that Covid caused a year of pain, but that was only after decades of profit and now insane profits given they haven't had to do anything new to earn it.
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« Reply #12355 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 12:56:03 »

... It's the company extracting/producing that have been milking the prices caused by energy being traded like a commodity.....
The commodification of energy is an interesting issue.

Not sure where I heard this snippet (on the TEF possibly!) but someone asking why their "renewables only" energy contract has gone up so much, had it explained to them that the price of renewable energy had been raised as a result of the energy scarcity generally.

ie the bill did not escape massive hikes due to the cost of production or even supply remaining largely unchanged.  It balooned because the energy"market" had skyrocketed generally making renewables more pricey. [I personally know nothing about this sector].
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