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« Reply #1 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 05:31:51 » |
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Ah. Now I understand.
We pack our team with youngsters and it's down to us if they achieve or not
Glad I know where we stand
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 07:14:53 » |
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Ah. Now I understand.
We pack our team with youngsters and it's down to us if they achieve or not
Glad I know where we stand
Well yes. To a large degree that's true. When you have a young side the fans can make a massive difference, it's all about confidence. The fans need to have a pit of patience and encourage the younger players (which is pretty much the whole team). If they get on a young lad's back as soon as he makes a mistake it can destroy him.
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 07:44:16 » |
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Patience in football disappeared at least 10 years ago. This is true of fans and of clubs too, look at the longest serving managers chart.
I'm sure a lot of us agree with what you are saying, but I reckon 4 or 5 games is about the limit before the audible moans start.
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 07:50:30 » |
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Patience in football disappeared at least 10 years ago. This is true of fans and of clubs too, look at the longest serving managers chart.
I'm sure a lot of us agree with what you are saying, but I reckon 4 or 5 games minutes is about the limit before the audible moans start.
Corrected for you. Sadly, there will be some who fall into that category.
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 07:51:26 » |
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Patience in football disappeared at least 10 years ago. This is true of fans and of clubs too, look at the longest serving managers chart.
I'm sure a lot of us agree with what you are saying, but I reckon 4 or 5 games is about the limit before the audible moans start.
That's all true Batch, sadly. I'd go further than that in fact and say that many fans' patience doesn't even stretch as far as 4 or 5 games - it's more like 4 or 5 minutes these days (M Smith for example wasn't given as long as 4 or 5 games). I'm just saying, in response to Audrey, that Cooper's point essentially is correct.
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 07:52:02 » |
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Corrected for you. Sadly, there will be some who fall into that category.
Haha! Great minds think alike as they say...
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 08:01:24 » |
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Patience in football disappeared at least 10 years ago. This is true of fans and of clubs too, look at the longest serving managers chart.
Seriously...when did this era of fan patience end then? I'm not sure it ever existed, to be fair.
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 08:11:37 » |
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Did fans get on Fjortofts back before he scored?
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 08:12:59 » |
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The first time I noticed fans having a go at the players was during the eventual 2-3 defeat to Bournemouth in 1989. I think we had just gone two goals behind, and to hear mass grumblings from the Town End was quite a shock.
I do agree though, that in recent years, grumblings have started earlier and for more trivial reasons. There just seems to be a more short-termist attitude generally in society, and this now includes football.
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 08:39:00 » |
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Did fans get on Fjortofts back before he scored?
The fans were unbelievably patient with Fjortoft as I recall. I remember in about the January of the PL season when he still hadn't scored and there was talk of the Club loaning him out to some foreign team. Round about then, there were a couple of boos (and that's all it was) when his name was read out before a game. The loan obviously never materialised and he got his first goal not long after then couldn't stop scoring.
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 08:40:00 » |
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The first time I noticed fans having a go at the players was during the eventual 2-3 defeat to Bournemouth in 1989. I think we had just gone two goals behind, and to hear mass grumblings from the Town End was quite a shock.
I do agree though, that in recent years, grumblings have started earlier and for more trivial reasons. There just seems to be a more short-termist attitude generally in society, and this now includes football.
Instant gratification is what people want 
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 08:49:31 » |
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Personally I can't see the sense in moaning at the players. If they can't give a rats arse (Prutton et al) it ain't gonna motivate them to do so, and if they're suffering from lack of confidence (Williams et al) all it does is fuck them up further.
You shouldn't blindly support your team, but groaning at players or telling them they're shit is not the way to motivate them. Few managers could get that kind of 'motivation' to work, so Joe Peabody and Mister Bloggs in the DRS certainly ain't.
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 08:55:14 » |
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Well yes. To a large degree that's true. When you have a young side the fans can make a massive difference, it's all about confidence. The fans need to have a pit of patience and encourage the younger players (which is pretty much the whole team). If they get on a young lad's back as soon as he makes a mistake it can destroy him.
Spot on and all was needed was one off his arse etc Still remember the first at home about 20 yards out under the keeper (mistake) Crystal Palace I believe and then the rest is history. What some crackers he then scored. Shearer worthy of a mention a bullet of a shot.
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday, August 9, 2014, 09:25:40 » |
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There are a small proportion of our fans who will secretly hope we concede early so they can get on with what they like doing best.
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