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« Reply #240 on: Monday, February 3, 2014, 15:15:25 »

Harley is 29, shouldn't he be the 'old' (ish) pro that should be taking the game by the scruff of the neck?
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« Reply #241 on: Monday, February 3, 2014, 15:23:09 »

All been said and more surprisingly a very large percentage saw the same problems regarding players/tactics etc..

Thought for a long while now that we needed a "old" pro in the middle of the park to help bring what are basically the untried players on, and they could be rotated as such. For my money, Hollands would have been a good acquisition but assume he is still at Gillingham?

There must be others around who would have fitted the bill but assume unless it is an emergency loan it is now too late and we have to run with what we have got.



That's what Harley is supposed to be though isn't it?

As Reg points out, difficult to tell beforehand if you're getting a McCormack or a Prutton - thought Harley looked decent at the start of the season but he was woeful on Saturday.

With respect to some of the other positional criticisms in this thread, Luongo has fairly regularly played a deeper role recently, admittedly alongside Kasim much of the time. Barker said himself he's an attacking midfielder not a striker so may be why he was deployed as such.

Sometimes a run of poor performances isn't due to tactical mistakes, much as that's a favourite stick to beat Cooper with, but the players just aren't performing to the right standard.

That's also to be laid at the door of the manager and coaching staff, but it's not made easy for them when key performers from earlier in the season are injured (Mason) suspended (Pritchard) or suffering a loss of form (Luongo).
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« Reply #242 on: Monday, February 3, 2014, 15:37:26 »

That's what Harley is supposed to be though isn't it?

As Reg points out, difficult to tell beforehand if you're getting a McCormack or a Prutton - thought Harley looked decent at the start of the season but he was woeful on Saturday.

With respect to some of the other positional criticisms in this thread, Luongo has fairly regularly played a deeper role recently, admittedly alongside Kasim much of the time. Barker said himself he's an attacking midfielder not a striker so may be why he was deployed as such.

Sometimes a run of poor performances isn't due to tactical mistakes, much as that's a favourite stick to beat Cooper with, but the players just aren't performing to the right standard.

That's also to be laid at the door of the manager and coaching staff, but it's not made easy for them when key performers from earlier in the season are injured (Mason) suspended (Pritchard) or suffering a loss of form (Luongo).

Or a Navarro...I think the current policy is the right sort of way forward and inevitably will lead to some shit performances, as well as some good...the emphasis is very much on Cooper and Williams to be able to polish turds...not easy and needs patience from the fans..
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« Reply #243 on: Monday, February 3, 2014, 15:41:36 »

Or a Navarro...I think the current policy is the right sort of way forward and inevitably will lead to some shit performances, as well as some good...the emphasis is very much on Cooper and Williams to be able to polish turds...not easy and needs patience from the fans..

Agree totally. This policy needs the few experienced heads to help the youngsters, Ward has done that for a year and a half, Harley it seems not so much.

Patience is key but unfortunately not something in great supply at the County Ground.

Hardly reasonable to expect youngsters (and castoffs like Kasim and Branco) to play at their maximum every week over a 50 game season. Maybe we were a bit spoilt by a few of them coming out of the blocks looking so good.
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« Reply #244 on: Monday, February 3, 2014, 17:08:05 »

For my money, Hollands would have been a good acquisition but assume he is still at Gillingham?


Don't want to sound all Chang like but Hollands has returned to Charlton and expects to get sent out on loan when the loan window opens. Possibly to Pompey.

And Powell to get the boot this week. Apparently they have a set up with Standard Liege similar to us with Spurs and Powell isn't liking it.
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« Reply #245 on: Monday, February 3, 2014, 18:38:31 »

Was the absence of Kasim really because of the paint pot? Any quotes from Cooper? Unsure
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« Reply #246 on: Monday, February 3, 2014, 18:42:11 »

Was the absence of Kasim really because of the paint pot? Any quotes from Cooper? Unsure

I do vaguely remember hearing him saying that in his post match.
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« Reply #247 on: Monday, February 3, 2014, 18:44:24 »

My observation is that in recent games the midfield 3 of Luongo, Harley, insert name here are practically sat on top of our back 4. When the ball heads up top, although the strikers try their hardest to hold it up, it comes back far too quickly. Add that to our powder puff tackling and it doesn't bode well.

Although I'm no budding tactician, I would suggest having a strong midfield enforcer type to protect the back 4 and have at least one of the 3 centre mids supporting the strikers a bit more. But what do I know....

More than Cooper?
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« Reply #248 on: Monday, February 3, 2014, 19:25:05 »

Was the absence of Kasim really because of the paint pot? Any quotes from Cooper? Unsure

He just said that he made changes with the JPT in mind, wasn't specific on what changes.
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« Reply #249 on: Monday, February 3, 2014, 22:06:20 »

I believe Kasim is on 9 yellows, perhaps that was the reason!
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« Reply #250 on: Monday, February 3, 2014, 22:24:02 »

He played Harley in front of Luongo which was a calamitous decision, Harley has about as much attacking ability as a legless tortoise.
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« Reply #251 on: Tuesday, February 4, 2014, 16:19:18 »

The bit in the second half where the Oldham player was caught offside and we tried to take it twice in their half and then twice again whilst the referee was playing silly buggers summed up the ineptitude of both our players and the referee.

Troy's first booking however was possibly the funniest thing I have ever seen, he totally cleaned the Oldham boy out!
I loved that, he decided to pull out of the challenge but his mind was too quick for his body and he just carried on running full pelt.
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