Yaser Kasim

[Nemo]

The Mail gave him 5/10 confirming the fact that they really hate immigrants

[pauld]

The Mail gave him 5/10 confirming the fact that they really hate immigrants

And that they know sod all about football

[Nemo]

And that they know sod all about football

That sentence could have finished after six words and still been entirely valid

[pauld]

That sentence could have finished after six words and still been entirely valid

You're quite right. Apologies for my redundancy

[reeves4england]

Immense.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

So according to The Sun matey out the black eyed peas got a 7 but Kasim got a 5. Do me a favour, do these cunts actually watch the game?

[Peter Venkman]

So according to The Sun matey out the black eyed peas got a 7 but Kasim got a 5. Do me a favour, do these cunts actually watch the game?

Nope they look at the results and the team and take pot luck guesses, Kasim was one of the best players on the pitch whether Swindon or Chelsea.

[Nomoreheroes]

So much of our attack and defence goes through him.

[Reg Smeeton]

To mix it with Essien for 90 minutes and still be alive is an achievement, but to do it so comfortably and manage to run parts of the game against that side is awesome.

The way he will get MOM awards is if the people deciding the award actually watch the game. with eyes.

I never tire of pointing out that MoM is decided by goons on the sponsors jolly...most likely either pissed or knowing next to fuck all about football. Certainly not something to give even a millisecond of consideration to.

As for Kasim...he goes to the very heart of English football. There's still a culture of wanting direct football, the doubters would say...he recycles possession but where is the end product?  Where are the assists, where are the goals?

I daresay, if this is debated on the TEF...there will be those opposed to flick fanny football, and would have preferred an up and atem, in your face, POMO approach to last night.

[dagrumpymunki]

As for Kasim...he goes to the very heart of English football. There's still a culture of wanting direct football, the doubters would say...he recycles possession but where is the end product?  Where are the assists, where are the goals?

I'm not sure what your point is here. Kasim is predominately a holding midfielder, so although he's got great passing ability and decent close control in tight spaces, most of his play takes place in and around the centre circle.

But when he gets forward to play up around the opposition penalty area, as he did against Crewe when we are on top, there's some very nice "end product" isn't there?

[droogie]

Dont think Reg was knocking Kasim, just making the point that England rarely produce this type of player. Besides, he can win the ball as well. The Sun and Mail know F.A about football, which feeds the lack of appreciation of skill. Think kasim is an excellent player, and sadly too good for this league.

[Reg Smeeton]

I'm not sure what your point is here. Kasim is predominately a holding midfielder, so although he's got great passing ability and decent close control in tight spaces, most of his play takes place in and around the centre circle.

But when he gets forward to play up around the opposition penalty area, as he did against Crewe when we are on top, there's some very nice "end product" isn't there?

My point is that English football has always been wary of Kasim type players...preferring to see a more direct style of play. Hence why he's getting 5/10 in newspapers, and posters like NMH are comparing him to Ray Wilkins, and calling for a more traditional approach to a cup game.

Ray was nicknamed The Crab, because he mainly recycled possession, seemingly sideways, never forward quickly enough...Dave Sexton was his mentor...a man who barely gets a mention in the list of great British managers, but was something of a prophet in a desert in the 60's 70's.

[Tails]

Talking shit Reg. Trying to find a way to smear anything positive going on at the club, as you always have. I dont know if you  believe it or you're just one of those annoying cunts who always plays Devils Advocate but never really has their own opinion.

[pauld]

Talking shit Reg. Trying to find a way to smear anything positive going on at the club, as you always have.

He really isn't. He's not having a go at Kasim, he's trying to explain why the Daily Mail are ignoramuses for not appreciating what Kasim does.

[dagrumpymunki]

My point is that English football has always been wary of Kasim type players...preferring to see a more direct style of play. Hence why he's getting 5/10 in newspapers, and posters like NMH are comparing him to Ray Wilkins, and calling for a more traditional approach to a cup game.

I'm just not sure that's true. The tabloids out of 10 ratings have always been a bit shit. I don't think they're really a reflection of the opinion of "English football" (whatever that may be).

Every fan that I've seen post anywhere seems to think that Kasim is one of the best midfielders we've had in years, and less than 10 games into his Swindon career we were turning down a £250k bid for him. So someone in the game outside the County Ground obviously rates him as well.

English Football also seemed to have a decent opinion of Ray Wilkins from what I remember. Certainly he picked up enough England caps over the years under 3 different managers. And there's been a Wilkins type (hold, win it, give it short) player in the England side for much of the last 30 years. Part of that tiresome debate about Gerrard and Lampard was the fact that neither of them fitted that role (so in came Garth Barry).

If there's a type of player that English Football has always been a bit wary of then Wilkins isn't the exemplar of it but Hoddle, (and even more so Le Tissier), skilful playmakers who might not have the "workrate"  that coaches have demanded over the years. What idiots call luxury players.

I'd argue that Kasim's got more to his game than the hold and give role anyway. He can carry the ball, pass long and short and create when he gets forward. I'd like to see him shoot a bit more after having seen that turn and shot he got off last night, but he looks a very rounded midfielder.