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« Reply #60 on: Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 10:53:36 »

I did which is why I suggested he may need some PR coaching!
Fair enough. Or they could just print this out and pin it above his desk
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« Reply #61 on: Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 11:10:51 »

And there's a time to do both. Which was my point. But you knew that.
Do you not think this warrants a response then
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« Reply #62 on: Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 11:16:17 »

Do you not think this warrants a response then
If Caddis then wants to go to the press, let him, it'll just look like whinging while the club maintain a dignified silence.
But whatever the motivation, if Caddis/his agent decided to go public to try and force the club's hand, there's no need for McCrory to respond. Just drags him and so the club into a "he said/she said" spat. Lacks class.
Apparently not.
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« Reply #63 on: Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 13:05:20 »

I think the point Drs is getting at is  the usual damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Imo Jed needed to say something about this.
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« Reply #64 on: Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 14:45:02 »

I think the point Drs is getting at is  the usual damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
Well if he is, I'd already said that IMO that's just silly - it's not a flat black or white choice between "say absolutely nothing at all on any topic" or "spout off about anything and everything" which damned if he does, damned if he doesn't implies. There' such a thing as judicious communication.

Although to be fair, the overall situation isn't McCrory's fault at all, it's just another mess he inherited from Di Canio being allowed to run riot.
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« Reply #65 on: Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 15:13:01 »

I think the point Drs is getting at is  the usual damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Imo Jed needed to say something about this.

I would agree but I think the Jedders train has left for many and whatever he says is going to get peoples back up. No doubt it would have become 'fact' that everything that Caddis said was true if Jed hadn't responded.

The sad thing with the Caddis thing is that we have got a player who is putting out media stories that he is desparate to leave and thinks that the club should roll over an accept all his demands and be prepared to lose cash to let him go.

If this didn't involve the current board everyone would be up in arms that is 'player power gone mad' and that we should let him rot, but there seems to be some sympathy to Caddis which I can only ascribe to the fact that its another rock to hit Jed with.

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« Reply #66 on: Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 15:17:25 »

there seems to be some sympathy to Caddis which I can only ascribe to the fact that its another rock to hit Jed with
I think actually there's still a bit of residual sympathy for Caddis from the way he was initially bombed out by Di Canio and the way the then board allowed that to happen. Nothing to do with McCrory, although personally I don't find either party very credible.
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« Reply #67 on: Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 15:24:52 »

I think actually there's still a bit of residual sympathy for Caddis from the way he was initially bombed out by Di Canio and the way the then board allowed that to happen. Nothing to do with McCrory, although personally I don't find either party very credible.

I would have agreed with you prior to this blowing up but I am wondering whether Caddis disappeared up his own arse (possibly at the encouragement of his Agent) and this clashed heavily with Di Canio whose need to be the only top man at the club made an argument inevitable.

In terms of the board letting it happen, as subsequent evidence has suggested, if Paolo had told Wray to do anything he would have done (and paid) for it.

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« Reply #68 on: Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 15:39:04 »

I would have agreed with you prior to this blowing up but I am wondering whether Caddis disappeared up his own arse (possibly at the encouragement of his Agent) and this clashed heavily with Di Canio whose need to be the only top man at the club made an argument inevitable.
I'd read it rather more as he's been blown out by the club, sent out on loan, told he's not wanted etc etc and he's long since made his mind up he wants to leave as a result. But the club he settled into and wanted to move to had their finances blow up and now can't afford him. In the meantime, we get a new board and manager(s) who understandably haven't had an argument with him and so don't see why he can't play for them now. But that ship's long since sailed and the player just wants out to start afresh somewhere else while keeping what was probably a very lucrative pay deal which he's struggling to find on offer anywhere else. So he's agitating for a move but it's as much his own demands that are blocking it as anything. But the seed of the problem lies with Di Canio's very expensive hiring and firing on a whim and Wray's pandering to it.
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« Reply #69 on: Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 17:09:18 »

I think the point Drs is getting at is  the usual damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Imo Jed needed to say something about this.

He did, and I actually think he comes across quite well on this. It's an inherited situation, and he has to protect the clubs position.
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« Reply #70 on: Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 18:47:56 »

I agree. Of course he had to respond, otherwise everyone would be slating him for his lack of communication and they'd be believing everything Caddis said. I certainly don't see why Jed "lacks class". He was asked a question by an interviewer and answered it - he didn't have a go at Caddis but simply denied that any offers had been made from Millwall or Birmingham and clarified the situation. Basically, what every Swindon fan has been wanting him to do for the last few months......

I'd like him, now though, to clarify why MacDonald left as well.
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« Reply #71 on: Thursday, August 29, 2013, 08:18:33 »

I do not normally comment on players leaving as the only people that remain are the supporters
Caddis does not want to be here ok i understand that
Jed was correct to speak out
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« Reply #72 on: Thursday, August 29, 2013, 11:41:34 »

For me it's clear Caddis is the one bullshitting. He could have gone to Blackpool but chose not to. So he can moan all he wants but it's his fault he's still here.
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« Reply #73 on: Thursday, August 29, 2013, 12:02:53 »

I suspect Jed will be at Swindon longer than Caddis. So, as much as Caddis was good for us two seasons back we need to get behind the team that are here for the duration. It doesn't really matter who's telling porkies, (they both have done and probalby will again at some point). I won't blame Caddis for leaving or for wanting to keep his existing salary, the same as I wouldn't blame Jed for not playing him if it breaks the budget. I wonder how many of us would take a pay cut and do extra work (after becoming a Dad too...)
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« Reply #74 on: Thursday, August 29, 2013, 12:13:06 »

I suspect Jed will be at Swindon longer than Caddis. So, as much as Caddis was good for us two seasons back we need to get behind the team that are here for the duration. It doesn't really matter who's telling porkies, (they both have done and probalby will again at some point). I won't blame Caddis for leaving or for wanting to keep his existing salary, the same as I wouldn't blame Jed for not playing him if it breaks the budget. I wonder how many of us would take a pay cut and do extra work (after becoming a Dad too...)

Fair enough but being a footballer is not like a "normal job" plus I doubt Blackpool were offering a salary so small that Caddis, his Mrs and new sprog couldn't afford to live on it. The way I see it is that he's trying to instigate a move to Brum. This is where he's wanted to go all along but Brum are skint at the moment and they don't want to pay the fee we're after. Going to the press was his way of trying to force through a move.
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