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« Reply #30 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 17:12:09 »

I'm failing to understand some of the responses on this topic..

Caddis played championship football last year and excelled, I went to university near Birmingham last year, and lived with Brummy season ticket holders and they said Caddis was arguably there best player last year. He has come back expecting a move back to Birmingham which wasnt possible. He has since come out and said that he will still play and give his all for Swindon if allowed to play! So why not play him??

If his wages are too high that sure look to sell him, but while your still paying these high wages use the man! He is without doubt the best right back in league one. He played all of preseason untill KMac went, since then hasnt been involved. Seems abit fishy to me.

The point, as i understand it, is we don't have to pay him high wages until he plays - by playing him we trigger the higher wages built into his contract extension... We can probably just about afford his 'old' wages so its an impass that can only be resolved by him moving on...  My guess is that his 'old' wages are higher than any club thinks he's worth, hence the problem...
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« Reply #31 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 17:28:44 »

The point, as i understand it, is we don't have to pay him high wages until he plays - by playing him we trigger the higher wages built into his contract extension... We can probably just about afford his 'old' wages so its an impass that can only be resolved by him moving on...  My guess is that his 'old' wages are higher than any club thinks he's worth, hence the problem...

To be fair, that is speculation right? I don't think anyone knows the true contractual situation.  Why would there be a hefty appearance bonus over basic salary?  I doubt a non-injury prone player would agree to this for the very reason that they wouldn't be paid as much if injured / banned / dropped etc.

The worst thing about the whole affair is that we once had a player that could have fetched £300k.  And we'll end up letting him go for free.  When you have no money, that's not good business.
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« Reply #32 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 17:38:49 »

I'm failing to understand some of the responses on this topic..

Caddis played championship football last year and excelled, I went to university near Birmingham last year, and lived with Brummy season ticket holders and they said Caddis was arguably there best player last year. He has come back expecting a move back to Birmingham which wasnt possible. He has since come out and said that he will still play and give his all for Swindon if allowed to play! So why not play him??

If his wages are too high that sure look to sell him, but while your still paying these high wages use the man! He is without doubt the best right back in league one. He played all of preseason untill KMac went, since then hasnt been involved. Seems abit fishy to me.

If you want to sell him and he plays 10 minutes of a match before breaking his leg, you look a bit stupid.

Pretty hard to tell who is at fault here. The way I see it, nobody really is. The club and the player want different things and until it's resolved everybody loses. If he's not sold before the window closes (sorry, slams shut) then I'd like to see him back in the team. Unless somebody makes a decent loan offer, taking on all of his wages and possibly paying a fee.
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« Reply #33 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 18:10:49 »

OK. Not heard the interview. Basing my comments on advert article.

I think we can all agree getting shot quickly is the best thing now.
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« Reply #34 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 18:38:19 »

Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA 5m
McCrory told me earlier that he asked Caddis to come back and play for #stfc in League One play-offs last season, but Caddis declined.

Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA 4m
McCrory also stated that it would be "naive" of the club to let Caddis move on for free at this point in time...

Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA 4m
He said: "“If I rang up Lionel Messi and said ‘can you tell Barcelona you don’t want to play for them, don’t worry about the sale price...

Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA 5m
McCrory: "we’ll cover your wages’, I don’t think Barcelona would do that. It would be very naïve of a club like ours to let someone like...

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McCrory: "Paul Caddis go for nothing so he could have a nice signing-on fee and salary going forward."

Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA 3m
McCrory stressed to me that he had not received a formal approach from Birmingham and Millwall over course of off-season for Caddis. #stfc

Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA 3m
So, at the end of it all, someone's lying.
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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 19:38:24 »

To be fair, that is speculation right? I don't think anyone knows the true contractual situation.  Why would there be a hefty appearance bonus over basic salary?  I doubt a non-injury prone player would agree to this for the very reason that they wouldn't be paid as much if injured / banned / dropped etc.

The worst thing about the whole affair is that we once had a player that could have fetched £300k.  And we'll end up letting him go for free.  When you have no money, that's not good business.

Who offered £300k? He's only worth £300k if someone offers it....
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« Reply #36 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 19:42:36 »

At the moment he's worth fuck all,not playing,not many clubs gonna take a gamble on him i think, a shit situation for all concerned..  Angry
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« Reply #37 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 19:46:55 »

listening to the interview on the radio now, his attempts to "clear things up" have just made things even more confusing frankly

hardly going to resolve the issue and what exactly are these comments from Jed on Twitter? Are they the comments made a few weeks back when Jed thought he was talking to Caddis on Twitter? If so it's a bit of a pointless response
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« Reply #38 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 19:51:11 »

I get the impression Caddis is easily led by his agent.
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« Reply #39 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 19:51:54 »

I get the impression Caddis is easily led by his agent.

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« Reply #40 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 19:52:54 »

I actually believe McCrory's version of events over Caddis'. I wasn't expecting that.
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« Reply #41 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 19:59:33 »

It seems to me it's a case of Caddis assuming he would be snapped up - probably by Birmingham - and he's now realised it backfired on him so he's trying to force the club to give him away for nothing. The thing is, he probably wouldn't get in the current team now anyway, not the way Thompson's playing.
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« Reply #42 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 20:00:09 »

I actually believe McCrory's version of events over Caddis'. I wasn't expecting that.

This. I struggle to believe most of what Jed says, but strangely i'm leaning 70-30 towards believing Jed's story.
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« Reply #43 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 20:00:41 »

he probably wouldn't get in the current team now anyway, not the way Thompson's playing.

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« Reply #44 on: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 20:13:58 »

I actually believe McCrory's version of events over Caddis'. I wasn't expecting that.
So do I or maybe they're both lying.
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