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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 12:53:21 » |
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In terms of population, no. In terms of fan base, I'd say they're both much bigger.
Its an interesting debate/discussion. For example Barnsley who have been in the Championship for a while now have a population of 73,000, whereas Swindon has a population of 209,000. A town our size should be able to support a Championship Club I would have thought? Peterborough has a similar population to us and are a Lg1/Championship yo yo club so perhaps this is what we should be aiming for? |
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we've been to Aberdeen, we hate the Hibs, they make us spew up, so make some noise,
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 13:10:33 » |
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Why do you keep quoting people without adding anything?
Perhaps he can't spell "this" |
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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 13:10:46 » |
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In 05/06 we averaged 5900ish, over the last few years we have grown those attendances by almost 3k. Fitton and co did a fantastic job at getting into the community and making STFC "cool" again.
Over the last 5 years the amount of Man Utd, Chelsea etc shirts in Swindon have gone down compared to the amount of youngsters now wearing Town shirts.
I honestly believe that with a new stadium or improved stadium we could do a Swansea, Brighton or Reading and improve our support massively.
I'd agree with all of that. Average attendances have been stuck at around 8,500 for the last 5 years or so after rising sharply in the years immediately before that. But what a lot of people seem to gloss over is that almost all of the clubs who have seen dramatic increases in attendances have had the benefit of: (a) promotions in to one of the top two divisions; or (b) a ground redevelopment ...or more often than not, both. We are one of a very small number of clubs that has done next to nothing to its stadium for the best part of a generation. And we have been outside of the top two divisions since 2000. Under those circumstances, interest in the club these days is pretty impressive in my view. And if/when we get our act together and do something with regards to (a) & (b) above, I think things are going to take off in quite a meaningful way. Not holding my breath right now, but one day it will happen. One day. |
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« Reply #18 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 13:14:28 » |
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I'd agree with all of that. Average attendances have been stuck at around 8,500 for the last 5 years or so after rising sharply in the years immediately before that. But what a lot of people seem to gloss over is that almost all of the clubs who have seen dramatic increases in attendances have had the benefit of:
(a) promotions in to one of the top two divisions; or
(b) a ground redevelopment
...or more often than not, both.
We are one of a very small number of clubs that has done next to nothing to its stadium for the best part of a generation. And we have been outside of the top two divisions since 2000. Under those circumstances, interest in the club these days is pretty impressive in my view. And if/when we get our act together and do something with regards to (a) & (b) above, I think things are going to take off in quite a meaningful way. Not holding my breath right now, but one day it will happen. One day.
Unfortunately, it looks like the promise of recent seasons has now gone. |
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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 13:14:46 » |
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Its an interesting debate/discussion.
For example Barnsley who have been in the Championship for a while now have a population of 73,000, whereas Swindon has a population of 209,000. A town our size should be able to support a Championship Club I would have thought? Peterborough has a similar population to us and are a Lg1/Championship yo yo club so perhaps this is what we should be aiming for?
Population of Manchester is approximately 500,000 but utd apparently have a fan base of 659 million, how does that work?  |
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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 13:21:43 » |
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Population of Manchester is approximately 500,000 but utd apparently have a fan base of 659 million, how does that work? 95% of statistics are made up. |
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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 13:23:34 » |
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Unfortunately, it looks like the promise of recent seasons has now gone.
Not holding my breath right now...
I think we are in agreement regarding the short term. But you have got to hope. |
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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 13:26:14 » |
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I think we are in agreement regarding the short term. But you have got to hope.
It's the hope that kills you....just accept our lot and enjoy it for what it is.. |
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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 13:29:46 » |
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If Yeovil can get to the Championship with a Conference budget, and League 2 gates, then we can get back to the Prem.
Probably not in the short term though.
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 13:37:14 » |
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If Yeovil can get to the Championship with a Conference budget, and League 2 gates, then we can get back to the Prem.
Probably not in the short term though.
At the outset of the season, most people agreed that the relative weakness of the league gave us a chance. Namely the likes of Pompey and Cov coming down were pretty much basket cases...with only really Sheff U kicking around as a name. Yeovil proved this by going up. For us to be upwardly competitive, than a massive change at the club has to happen....we're currently undergoing a massive change, but not for the better. Our short term aim has to be maintaining our current status next season. |
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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 13:40:11 » |
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What were Reading's gates before the move to their new stadium? On the whole, the club's challenging for promotion in thr Championship have new(ish) stadia.
Cardiff
Hull
Watford (two end stands built in the 1990's)
Brighton
Palace (no)
Leicester
Bolton
Forest (two end stands built in the 1990's)
Charlton (three new stands from the late 1990's)
Derby
We need a new stadium to 'improve revnenue streams'.
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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 14:34:38 » |
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Why do you keep quoting people without adding anything?
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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 16:02:39 » |
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« Reply #29 on: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 16:40:03 » |
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What were Reading's gates before the move to their new stadium? On the whole, the club's challenging for promotion in thr Championship have new(ish) stadia.
Cardiff
Hull
Watford (two end stands built in the 1990's)
Brighton
Palace (no)
Leicester
Bolton
Forest (two end stands built in the 1990's)
Charlton (three new stands from the late 1990's)
Derby
We need a new stadium to 'improve revnenue streams'.
but for every Reading and Brighton there is a Coventry or Darlington It is not a given that a new stadium equals success. It is very much chicken and egg. Does the stadium come first or does the team have to achieve success first? Personally, I reckon a piecemeal approach to revamping our existing stadium is the way to go |
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