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« Reply #60 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:23:57 »

Sick bastards.
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nochee

« Reply #61 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:25:47 »

It's well known Muslims hate the western society, shouting that shit whilst hacking to death an innocent man makes me feel fucking sick, those 2 wounded will no doubt be well looked after by our society
TWAT!

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« Reply #62 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:28:40 »

I disagree, if we can all go to the cinema or watch tv and see the equivalent but with corn starch blood, we should bloody well put up with the distaste of real life violence.

Edit: apologies, I can't really disagree with a statement prefaced by "I'm really not sure..." so my response was probably overstated.

It's alright, you're entitled to your opinion which I don't disagree with. I'm not expressing a distaste for the violence involved, the blood isn't the problem. I just question whether something like this which is most likely done as a political statement should be given the publicity that the attacker clearly wanted it to get.
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« Reply #63 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:29:34 »

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Very good, eloquent, point.
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« Reply #64 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:31:34 »

It's alright, you're entitled to your opinion which I don't disagree with. I'm not expressing a distaste for the violence involved, the blood isn't the problem. I just question whether something like this which is most likely done as a political statement should be given the publicity that the attacker clearly wanted it to get.

A fair point, but I think the act itself is sufficient as a political statement.  The fact the footage was shown probably doesn't add a great deal, in my view.
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« Reply #65 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:33:23 »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303
He said after the "horrendous" attack, the two men, who were also in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, and asked people to take pictures of them "as if they wanted to be on TV or something".

Tough one, because it's hard not to think that they got what they wanted. The more things like this are glorified, the more they will happen. There's a Charlie Brooker thing on school shootings that makes this point better than I will. If the story is 'two mentally ill people on drugs commit a crime and attack an innocent man' it's not a global story. If it's 'members of the global jihad attack - live on tv', then it's discussed everywhere - even on football forums. Which means people who do this shit for attention are more likely to do it.
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« Reply #66 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:35:42 »

A fair point, but I think the act itself is sufficient as a political statement.  The fact the footage was shown probably doesn't add a great deal, in my view.

As the common objectives of terrorism attacks is to put fear and terror into the public,  does not showing such footage just play into the perpetrators hands?  You have to wonder about the person who saw a guy wandering about with a knife and cleaver and thought to film him?
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Spud

« Reply #67 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:37:13 »

Whenever anything like this happens, Facebook turns into a BNP recruitment site.

I get people's anger, but lets calm down a bit and not tar everyone with the same brush.
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nochee

« Reply #68 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:39:31 »

Very good, eloquent, point.
I'm a lazy writer. The one word put my point across.
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Flashheart

« Reply #69 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:40:38 »

If the press did not release the footage then they would be accused of a cover up. Accusations of a cover up would only fuel groups like the the EDL/BNP further.
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woolster

« Reply #70 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:41:10 »

I'm a lazy writer. The one word put my point across.
And your a wanker
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« Reply #71 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:41:38 »

As the common objectives of terrorism attacks is to put fear and terror into the public,  does not showing such footage just play into the perpetrators hands?  You have to wonder about the person who saw a guy wandering about with a knife and cleaver and thought to film him?

Do you think that is the aim though?  I suppose maybe it is.  It's hard to try to rationalise what they are doing.  With NI terrorism I suppose it was about bullying the UK government into withdrawing their claim to the 9 Counties so terrorising the public into submission was expected to bring about that end.  With Islam extremism it's hard to understand in such terms.  I think it was Charlie Brooker who said "you cannot negotiate with someone whose stated aim is the destruction of western civilisation - where do you go from there?" or words to that effect.
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« Reply #72 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:46:46 »

And your a wanker

*You're

You're not coming out of this at all well. You do have the option of not digging the hole deeper.
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nochee

« Reply #73 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:46:49 »

And your a wanker
fully accepted. I might have one now
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woolster

« Reply #74 on: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 19:49:15 »

*You're

You're not coming out of this at all well. You do have the option of not digging the hole deeper.
Get a life ffs
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