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« Reply #15 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:08:04 » |
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KR and fatbasher - the cheerleaders of doom.
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« Reply #16 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:13:50 » |
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KR and fatbasher - the cheerleaders of doom.
To be fair it IS all rather gloomy, don't you think. Of course, it doesn't help with the constant comparisons with what we had with PdC and the vision, and what we have now. Fans' expectations had been raised so fucking high and now they at look what has replaced the dream - nightmare scenario of owners who appear distinctly dodgy and the fall back iinto nothingness.
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« Reply #17 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:15:57 » |
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KR and fatbasher - the cheerleaders of doom.
Worse case scenario.
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« Reply #18 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:17:04 » |
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Fuck me I've stumbled onto thisis
The old budget wasnt sustainable, a reduced budget makes absolute sound business sense
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sonicyouth
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« Reply #19 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:19:48 » |
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To be fair it IS all rather gloomy, don't you think.
Of course, it doesn't help with the constant comparisons with what we had with PdC and the vision, and what we have now.
Fans' expectations had been raised so fucking high and now they at look what has replaced the dream - nightmare scenario of owners who appear distinctly dodgy and the fall back iinto nothingness.
I can't say I'm filled with optimism and my concerns far outweigh the positives at the moment but I don't necessarily disagree with the idea of running the club in a more sustainable manner and if that means budget cuts then so be it. I don't want to be in the position we've been in before. The vision, the expectations, the fallout/expenditure of Di Canio was well beyond this club and was entirely down to one benefactor. I personally don't want us to be reliant on a benefactor as it invariably turns to shit when they get bored/lose interest. It's just that yourself and fatbasher seem to revel in some kind of gleeful misery every time there's a new stick to beat the board with.
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Dr Pierre Chang
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« Reply #20 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:20:29 » |
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Everyone has missed the real crime in that article - Aden Flint on the radar of Championship clubs! 
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Iffy's Onion Bhaji
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« Reply #21 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:25:02 » |
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To be fair it IS all rather gloomy, don't you think.
Of course, it doesn't help with the constant comparisons with what we had with PdC and the vision, and what we have now.
Fans' expectations had been raised so fucking high and now they at look what has replaced the dream - nightmare scenario of owners who appear distinctly dodgy and the fall back iinto nothingness.
Well maybe the fans that fell for the high expectations need to realise that the "dream" under PDC was always going to be unsustainable.
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« Reply #22 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:29:11 » |
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I see they waited for 5000 saps to buy their STs before releasing this little nugget.
How motivating it must be for the players to try and kick on for the play-offs and beyond - you've just got to ask why come out with this now.
And what happened to that statement that the new board's budget would remain the same.
Perhaps they actually said budgie
To be fair it IS all rather gloomy, don't you think.
Of course, it doesn't help with the constant comparisons with what we had with PdC and the vision, and what we have now.
Fans' expectations had been raised so fucking high and now they at look what has replaced the dream - nightmare scenario of owners who appear distinctly dodgy and the fall back iinto nothingness.
At the risk of being labelled a doom monger, I have to agree with this. If by some chance we're in the Championship, cutting the budget is obviously not going to help our chances of staying there. Vice versa, if still in League 1, based on the fact we've failed to get automatic promotion this time around, I imagine it will be harder with a lesser budget? It's no great surprise, as it's been fairly clear for a while the Board have no money. I'm not sure of the value of releasing an article like this before the end of the season though with important games still to play. It just causes more unsettlement and runs the risk of players thinking 'fuck it, I've had enough of this crap'. Seems like the next couple of seasons are going to be settling for mid table medicrocy or struggling to stay up.
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« Reply #23 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:32:55 » |
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At the risk of being labelled a doom monger, I have to agree with this.
If by some chance we're in the Championship, cutting the budget is obviously not going to help our chances of staying there. Vice versa, if still in League 1, based on the fact we've failed to get automatic promotion this time around, I imagine it will be harder with a lesser budget?
It's no great surprise, as it's been fairly clear for a while the Board have no money. I'm not sure of the value of releasing an article like this before the end of the season though with important games still to play. It just causes more unsettlement and runs the risk of players thinking 'fuck it, I've had enough of this crap'.
Seems like the next couple of seasons are going to be settling for mid table medicrocy or struggling to stay up.
What would you rather? The club borrow money they have no means of paying back on a gamble? They find a wealthy individual and persuade him into throwing money into a bottomless pit until he or she realises that it's more hassle than it's worth and decides to pull out? The fact is that the previous system was not sustainable and Black had been looking for a way out for a long time. There's plenty of clubs who have done quite well under tight financial constraints.
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« Reply #24 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:35:56 » |
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If we go up, the budget should be increased otherwise it could get embarrassing. To cut the budget after promotion really would be 'mickey mouse' and a lack of ambition.
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« Reply #25 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:36:54 » |
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At the risk of being labelled a doom monger, I have to agree with this.
If by some chance we're in the Championship, cutting the budget is obviously not going to help our chances of staying there. Vice versa, if still in League 1, based on the fact we've failed to get automatic promotion this time around, I imagine it will be harder with a lesser budget?
It's no great surprise, as it's been fairly clear for a while the Board have no money. I'm not sure of the value of releasing an article like this before the end of the season though with important games still to play. It just causes more unsettlement and runs the risk of players thinking 'fuck it, I've had enough of this crap'.
Seems like the next couple of seasons are going to be settling for mid table medicrocy or struggling to stay up.
Doom mongerer, welcome to the club. You are officially number three on the membership register.
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« Reply #26 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:38:27 » |
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If we go up, the budget should be increased otherwise it could get embarrassing. To cut the budget after promotion really would be 'mickey mouse' and a lack of ambition.
Are you going to put the money in?
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Iffy's Onion Bhaji
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« Reply #27 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:40:30 » |
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If we go up, the budget should be increased otherwise it could get embarrassing. To cut the budget after promotion really would be 'mickey mouse' and a lack of ambition.
I think that's what they are holding fire on. Until we know what league we're going to be in they won't be able to assess costs/budgets. Crowds and TV money will be higher in the championship so the budget probably won't need to be reduced but I doubt it'll be increased. L1 on the other hand is a different story and the budget will have to be cut.
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Dr Pierre Chang
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« Reply #28 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:42:01 » |
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Are you going to put the money in?
I'm not the man in charge of the football club who promised 'significant funds'. Just seen the post above from Bhaji - my thoughts exactly. I can understand a budget cut in League 1 but not if we go up.
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« Reply #29 on: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 08:51:28 » |
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I'm not the man in charge of the football club who promised 'significant funds'.
Just because the budget is reduced doesn't mean the new budget wont require "significant" funding, it ain't cheap runnig a club
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