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« on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 14:31:27 »

Would you rather support a shit team in a good league, or a good team in a shit league?

(just been watching the Reading game Smiley).

A lot of people are saying if we go up to the Championship this year we'd come straight back down.

To play devil's advocate a minute: do you think you'd be happier next season seeing us play Championship football against better opposition each week at the expense of results and performances, or League One football each week with better performances and results against lower quality opposition?

 Hmmm
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« Reply #1 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 14:38:03 »

It would be fun, to be a small fish in a big pond. We might get hammered week in week out. But it would be fun to visit different grounds
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 14:40:30 »

I have to say based on previous experience I enjoyed the season under Hoddle that we got promoted to the Premier League much more than the season we spent in the Premier League getting hammered week in & week out.

That said, the (few) good days in the Premier League when we managed to get some positive results against the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal & Spurs were great
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 14:45:04 »

I don't go to games to watch the opposition - I go to be entertained by Swindon.

There is no point in being in a higher league if you are not competitive.

The PL season was a one off -  its a bit different with Arsenal at the CG and, say, Middlesbrough
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 14:45:40 »

Would be nice to refamiliarise ourselves with some grounds we've not had the chance to vist in a few years, additionaly experience some of the newer venues. The away day adventure counts for a lot. Also some decent away followings might help energise the County Ground atmosphere.
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 16:01:09 »

Would be nice to refamiliarise ourselves with some grounds we've not had the chance to vist in a few years, additionaly experience some of the newer venues. The away day adventure counts for a lot. Also some decent away followings might help energise the County Ground atmosphere.

A very good point.

I think a bit of yo-yoing is probably the most entertaining for the fans.  Enjoying the occasional promotion makes up for suffering the occasional relegation.
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 16:41:04 »

Championship football. Why wouldn't anyone want it? I want the joy of seeing us go back there, even if it only lasts a few matches when we are there. If we don't all want promotion what is the point of football.

Besides which, small clubs have survived in the Championship.
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 17:01:00 »

The best thing in football is winning.

Unless you're in the top division then a fantastic season with lots of wins mean promotion to a better league which is highly likely to result in a season filled with many more losses. I think in this case it's better to take the rough with the smooth.

The alternative is to be Oldham win some, lose some, go nowhere and just make up the numbers.

The best way to progress is probably the West Brom way. Go up spend a little, bank a lot. Go back down, come back up, spend a little bit more, bank a lot. Go back down, come back up. Spend some more which 3rd time is enough to establish yourself, bank a bit. That's the way to do yoyoing.

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 17:14:17 »

I'd love to get into the Championship!  Selfishly as there are more away days that are closer, but I believe our style of football lends itself to a higher level, we'll need a consistent goal scorer though!
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 17:21:10 »

I'd like to be a big fish in a small pond and as we've never been a non-league team, we should try it sometime.
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 17:24:31 »

I'd like to be a big fish in a small pond and as we've never been a non-league team, we should try it sometime.

I think I saw you on Sky Spoorts the other day.
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 17:33:38 »

I'd like to be a big fish in a small pond and as we've never been a non-league team, we should try it sometime.

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« Reply #12 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 19:28:50 »

Bear with me as I pontificate somewhat.

I was always of the opinion that the European Cup would be a fore runner to an European " Super League" based purely upon the monetary side of things. EUEFA pre-emptied that by changing the competition into a divisional format (i.e. more games = more money + more TV coverage etc.) so knocking the need for such a League and all the associated administration problems on the head.

Like wise in a similar vein I can see that there will be a "second" Premier League Division in the (not too disant) future for the very same reason. Money being being the driving factor (parachute payments already having an effect) and I really want us to be in the mix if it ever happens, so I am on the Shit Team Good League side.
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 19:40:35 »

The best way to progress is probably the West Brom way. Go up spend a little, bank a lot. Go back down, come back up, spend a little bit more, bank a lot. Go back down, come back up. Spend some more which 3rd time is enough to establish yourself, bank a bit. That's the way to do yoyoing.

This is the stuff.

The way the leagues are moving apart, we need to get into the champo in the next couple of years to stand a chance of making it back there again. If we go up this/next year and come down straight after it doesn't matter, as long as the money that we earn gets invested into the club. And by that I don't mean purely player salaries, I mean bricks and mortar, infrastructure etc. that mean when we do get back up we have a chance of sticking there.

Honestly, if by yo-yoing we turn into a 'solid championship standard' team, like Burnley or Brum in the next 5/10 years I will be a happy bunny. If that includes a foray into the Premiership, I wouldn't say no, even if we are whipping boys.

In other words, shit team good league every time. I'm not going to stop following the Town, whatever division they're in, whatever the results are. Such is the way of being a proper supporter.
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 19:53:38 »

I have to say based on previous experience I enjoyed the season under Hoddle that we got promoted to the Premier League much more than the season we spent in the Premier League getting hammered week in & week out.

That said, the (few) good days in the Premier League when we managed to get some positive results against the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal & Spurs were great
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It was much better following STFC when we were on our rise up from Dive 4 through to the Premiership. I stopped enjoying going to games when we drew at home in the FA Cup against West Ham. For me, it all got a bit too serious from there.
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