Spurs trio...

[Peter Gibbons]

 

[Spurs_Fan]

From my point of view and, for what it's worth, I think it's pants that clubs allow this sort of thing to happen in football. It undermines the team, it's fans and any form of self development. The 'big brother' factor has no place in football. The playing field should be level on all levels.

Unfortunately however, the MASSIVE hand of finance has covered our nations game to the point where you have men with small dicks and sand in their pants spending £1.000.000.000 over a four year period on new players, who then go on and win the league.

OK, Jack Walker was no different as funk on Blackburn won the title not so long ago so, it's not soo new. Having said that, managers like Brain Clough and his generation are slowly disappearing, along with the values our game has held for so long.

I mean, the world's oldest Cup game is now some mere speck in the Sky Sports TV schedule, with the final being played on a normal Saturday to suit the broadcasters.

But hey, I digress...

The situation is what it is and there's not much you or I can do about it so, on the positive side, having players from the same team on loan may well be more beneficial as there will of course already be comradery between them.

Like someone said earlier; if this is to be the model of future clubs in league one, then at least you didn't get Stoke as your supplier.   

[kerry red]

I can see the benefit for us - if there is one. Players on relatively small wages and a relatively high skill level

But what is the benefit to Spurs - do you honestly see any of these players actually making up into a first team regular at The Lane?

None of the bigger PL clubs appear to trust their youth systems as very few, if any, youngsters make it with their parent club

[Spurs_Fan]

I can see the benefit for us - if there is one. Players on relatively small wages and a relatively high skill level

But what is the benefit to Spurs - do you honestly see any of these players actually making up into a first team regular at The Lane?

None of the bigger PL clubs appear to trust their youth systems as very few, if any, youngsters make it with their parent club

Mate, as I said earlier in the thread, both Pritchard and Luongo have big futures at Tottenham and I for one was surprised that Pritchard even left to go out on loan.

As for Mason well, he was the don of the academy but for some reason, he's lost it but here's hoping he gets something back. I can't see him making it at Spurs now though.

Hall will make it as far as the first team, but how much depends on his development over the next two seasons.

Edit: I'd just like to add that both our first team full backs have come through loan schemes and are now full first team regulars in Walker and Rose. They are both English too, which makes me pretty happy to be honest. 

[sonicyouth]

none of the players you have loaned us will go on to make appearances for Spurs in any senior competition.

[Spurs_Fan]

none of the players you have loaned us will go on to make appearances for Spurs in any senior competition.

What do you base that on mate? Here's the lack of academy players not making it into the first team against PAOK in the UEFA Cup last season.

PAOK Salonika: Kresic, Malezas, Contreras, Lino, Etto, Pablo Garcia, Fotakis, Arias, Vieirinha, Athanasiadis, Salpingidis. Subs: Chalkias, Balafas, Robert, Papazoglou, Ivic, Sznaucner, Tsoukalas.

Tottenham: Cudicini, Bassong, Corluka, Walker, Livermore, Townsend, Carroll, Pavlyuchenko, Giovani, Falque, Kane. Subs: Gomes, Fredericks, Nicholson, Pritchard, Parrett, Stewart, Barthram.

[sonicyouth]

1) playing for us will ruin their careers
2) none of them are Norwegian

seriously though, I can't imagine that any of them will impress in a young and inexperienced L1 side enough to encourage Spurs to throw them into the first team, especially if you're chasing CL football. If any of the youngsters impress then they will probably generate enough interest from sides in the Championship/high end of L1 to tempt them from sitting around in the reserves at White Hart Lane.

[Spurs_Fan]

1) playing for us will ruin their careers
2) none of them are Norwegian

seriously though, I can't imagine that any of them will impress in a young and inexperienced L1 side enough to encourage Spurs to throw them into the first team, especially if you're chasing CL football. If any of the youngsters impress then they will probably generate enough interest from sides in the Championship/high end of L1 to tempt them from sitting around in the reserves at White Hart Lane.

heh : )

Ok then, here's a bet for you...

I'm willing to place five of my English pounds on the fact that both Luongo and Pritchard make the first team and play more than 10 games in the same season with-in two years.

You game?

Out of all of the youth prospects at Tottenham, Swindon have two of the best at the club. They are still very young and a lot can happen but, this is the same route Walker took. L1 -> CS -> PL

[Dr Pierre Chang]

Ok then, here's a bet for you...

I'm willing to place five of my English pounds on the fact that both Luongo and Pritchard make the first team and play more than 10 games in the same season with-in two years.

How about a bet that your golden boy will be playing his trade in the Spanish capital next season?

[sonicyouth]

heh : )

Ok then, here's a bet for you...

I'm willing to place five of my English pounds on the fact that both Luongo and Pritchard make the first team and play more than 10 games in the same season with-in two years.

You game?

Out of all of the youth prospects at Tottenham, Swindon have two of the best at the club. They are still very young and a lot can happen but, this is the same route Walker took. L1 -> CS -> PL

what's the yen to krone exchange rate like?

I just can't see it. We've had a few "next big things" at Swindon and only Milner has done anything of note

[china red]

What do you base that on mate? Here's the lack of academy players not making it into the first team against PAOK in the UEFA Cup last season.

PAOK Salonika: Kresic, Malezas, Contreras, Lino, Etto, Pablo Garcia, Fotakis, Arias, Vieirinha, Athanasiadis, Salpingidis. Subs: Chalkias, Balafas, Robert, Papazoglou, Ivic, Sznaucner, Tsoukalas.

Tottenham: Cudicini, Bassong, Corluka, Walker, Livermore, Townsend, Carroll, Pavlyuchenko, Giovani, Falque, Kane. Subs: Gomes, Fredericks, Nicholson, Pritchard, Parrett, Stewart, Barthram.

Was Walker not signed from Sheff Utd?

[Sir Pissalot]

what's the yen to krone exchange rate like?

I just can't see it. We've had a few "next big things" at Swindon and only Milner has done anything of note

.......and Michael Carrick.........and Shay Given.

[sonicyouth]

.......and Michael Carrick.........and Shay Given.

before my time so can't really comment.

I'd say the ratio of decent loan players to shit loan players is pretty depressing, with a handful over 10 years being good.

[Bogus Dave]

Luongo is quality. Will play prem for sure. Possibly not for spurs if they continue to bother the top four, bu for a mid table side deffo

[Sir Pissalot]

before my time so can't really comment.

I'd say the ratio of decent loan players to shit loan players is pretty depressing, with a handful over 10 years being good.

Perhaps I was misunderstanding your reference to "have done anything of note"......... but you're right about decent loanees being as rare as Dr Chang's accurate predictions.