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« Reply #150 on: Friday, July 26, 2013, 22:39:24 »

Thanks for the write up. We'll report back after a few games.
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« Reply #151 on: Friday, July 26, 2013, 22:46:55 »

Any idea why he couldn't get a game out in France?
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« Reply #152 on: Friday, July 26, 2013, 22:47:29 »

There are a few Town fans who are concerned about the link up with Spurs, myself included. we know that Lee power and Tim Sherwood are BFF but we don't understand the terms of the relationship. Who is paying the wages. Do we have to play the players etc.
Do you have any take on it?
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« Reply #153 on: Friday, July 26, 2013, 22:51:46 »

...and whether we had any choice in the players we've taken.
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« Reply #154 on: Friday, July 26, 2013, 23:22:17 »

There are a few Town fans who are concerned about the link up with Spurs, myself included. we know that Lee power and Tim Sherwood are BFF but we don't understand the terms of the relationship. Who is paying the wages. Do we have to play the players etc.
Do you have any take on it?

I could only speculate mate but, ties between the two clubs go back a long time. If you look at the Hoddle/Spurs connection, it seems it has grown from there.

I know that our Youth Team Coach has some ties with the Director over there but, to what extent that is, I'm not sure.

Normal loan terms suggest that the parent club pays the whole, if not, the majority of the players salary. I would have thought that this will be the case in question here too.

From a Spurs point of view, I would rather have kept Mason, Pritchard and Hall at the club in the U21's team, along with Luongo. I don't see the point in loaning out players when this new competition seems to be a more ideal way to nurture the youth talents.

...and whether we had any choice in the players we've taken.

Again, only speculation here but, I would have thought having these lads at the club can only better the chances of a higher position this term. There would have been discussion between the clubs about which players could be available for a loan but surely both club would have to come to an agreement before any transaction can take place.

On a side note, I can understand fans concerns about taking loan deals. When manure stole Berbatov, they loaned us DJ funk in Campbell. ooooh, I was seeing the green mist during those few months at the start of that season I can tell you soapy tit wank. In this case; Swindon and Tottenham, because of the distance in League positions in recent years, it can't be helped to feel a little like 'big brother' is calling the shots. For all I know, this may well be the case but, I very much doubt that football is run this way when the amounts of money involved in all four tiers of the association are at such premium levels. Like I say though, it can't be helped to have said attitudes, especially when there are now Six ex and current Spurs players at the club.

For me, like I said above, I would rather the lads had stayed at Tottenham to develop but what do I know?
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« Reply #155 on: Saturday, July 27, 2013, 08:02:58 »


For me, like I said above, I would rather the lads had stayed at Tottenham to develop but what do I know?

Apparently not a lot.  It was Frazier Campbell.


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« Reply #156 on: Saturday, July 27, 2013, 11:00:30 »

For me, like I said above, I would rather the lads had stayed at Tottenham to develop but what do I know?

That's just the problem, there is no development playing in reserve games and the odd league cup match. A lot of players never quite find their feet until they are released and it's then do or die time, for some players that moment is too late and they end up dropping out of the league all together.

League One football with pressure and expectation of fans and big 6 foot 5 brick shithouse centre backs trying to kick you, is where players develop better than in front of a couple of hundred fans in a reserves game, against a team with a few players on the recovery from injury, etc.
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« Reply #157 on: Saturday, July 27, 2013, 11:06:44 »

Agree with  ChalkyWhiteIsGod , added to that we have seen a fair few highly rated youngsters do one of two things: 

Some have come and given it their all, and done remarkable well for us.

Some have come in, and looked disinterested as if they think they are "better" than league 1. And are pretty quickly found out in front of the fans.

Both groups have talent, but you learn a lot about attitude too playing in real games. I think it'll develop them in ways reserve U21 games never could. Lucky Spurs Smiley
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« Reply #158 on: Saturday, July 27, 2013, 11:21:01 »

Playing in League One gives them a taste of what happens if they get released by Spurs as Swindon is the sort of club who they'd have to join on a permanent deal.  If it doesn't motivate them to give everything to get a new contract then nothing will.
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« Reply #159 on: Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 08:44:37 »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2380976/Tottenham-strengthen-Swindon-link-CHARLES-SALE.html

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Tottenham are forming a relationship with League One Swindon that is considered the closest to a nursery scheme in English football.


Spurs have four promising players, including England Under 20 international Alex Pritchard, on loan at Swindon — the most allowed by the Football League — with two more signings from White Hart Lane going to the County Ground on free transfers.


Swindon director and part-owner Lee Power and Spurs technical co-ordinator Tim  Sherwood have built close links.

It is understood Sherwood believes feeder teams in the lower leagues are the way forward for Premier League clubs who want to give more young  players match experience without losing them.


The potential alliance is such that Tottenham coaches may in future have access to Swindon training sessions to ensure the clubs work to similar ideals

From the Daily Mail today....Obviously it's mostly things we already know, but it sounds as if Spurs loanees could become a fixture of the squad for seasons to come if the relationship continues.
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« Reply #160 on: Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 09:11:04 »

Sounds fucking shit to me, I have no intetest in being Tottenham's feeder.

"The potential alliance is such that Tottenham coaches may in future have access to Swindon training sessions to ensure the clubs work to similar ideals"

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« Reply #161 on: Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 09:13:05 »

Yeah these top level coaches and their methods and ideas can fuck right off.
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« Reply #162 on: Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 09:31:34 »

Yeah these top level coaches and their methods and ideas can fuck right off.

I accept some, maybe most will be happy for spurs to dictate the way we play football. Each to their own though.
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« Reply #163 on: Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 09:34:22 »

I think we have to look at the bigger picture here, we wouldn't have a player the calibre of Pritchard if it wasn't for our link with them, it can only be a good thing.

We're in League One for fuck sake we need all the help we can get.

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« Reply #164 on: Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 09:37:51 »

As I said each to their own. Happy enough with a link up. Would be unhappy to be forced to play their players in their system.

We don't yet know that's the case before anyone starts whining at making suppositions.
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