Society of Black Lawyers

[jonny72]

Christ on a bike, of course it isn't you moron

It isn't because the person is a lawyer, so black lawyer is the correct description.

What if they're a c**t?

[Dostoyevsky]

I can hand on heart say that in my 20 years of attending football I have probably heard racial epithets being spouted a handful of times and that was in the 90s, nothing whatsoever since. However I have heard plenty of ethnicist (is that a term) slurs that always are recieved with a widespread chortle, such terms as frog, craut, sheepshapper, gypo, sweaty, mick, tatty muncher, dago, grease monkey, rag head etc etc.

Why the emphasise on cross racial offensive terms? If you offend someone of the same race but who has a slightly  different hue of skin, is that alright? Is this race relations industry just crass financial opportunism? We're being inundated through the media about Twitterings but on an everyday, see what I see, hear what I hear basis, I don't observe a problem warranting all this hand ringing, soul searching, "we must combat this problem at every turn" situation that has surfaced enormously lately.

[pauld]

I can hand on heart say that in my 20 years of attending football I have probably heard racial epithets being spouted a handful of times and that was in the 90s, nothing whatsoever since.

Really? Suspect you're either deaf or ignoring it. Or maybe you sit in posher bits than me. I still hear racial epithets at least once a season, more often aimed at Asians (or more recently specifically Muslims, but generally just being used as a placeholder for all Asians because the thick racist bastards don't differentiate anyway) than blacks, but still very much there.

As I said earlier in this thread, Peter Herbert is a publicity-seeking twat no doubt about it, but that's no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Racism is still a problem in British football because it's still a problem in British society. Just because you might not see/hear it personally, well maybe you mix in largely polite white circles where it's not polite to be racist and you're not likely to be on the receiving end of it. Doesn't mean it's gone away.

[Coca Fola]

I've heard them at least 10 times just watching us.

[Dostoyevsky]

Just as an aside to that Paul, is racism only cutting one way. My brother's ex girlfriend, a blonde white woman, who originates from Leicester, said that she was frequently racially abused by Asian men in the city, usually a scenario of cars full of youths pulling alongside as she was walking along, and she'd be subject to an onslaught of abuse, "white whore", "Leicester is ours" etc. Then there's the uncomfortable truth that many fatal racist attacks, 3 in Peterborough alone in recent years, have involved white victims. The mainstream media seem to put up a unified wall of silence.

Seems that many people want to show their credentials by denouncing racism in the loudest terms but when confronted with it being an issue which white people are increasingly also the victim of (I believe in proportional terms more racist murders have been committed against whites) they are conspicuous by their absense of denunciation.

[pauld]

Just as an aside to that Paul, is racism only cutting one way. My brother's ex girlfriend, a blonde white woman, who originates from Leicester, said that she was frequently racially abused by Asian men in the city, usually a scenario of cars full of youths pulling alongside as she was walking along, and she'd be subject to an onslaught of abuse, "white whore", "Leicester is ours" etc. Then there's the uncomfortable truth that many fatal racist attacks, 3 in Peterborough alone in recent years, have involved white victims. The mainstream media seem to put up a unified wall of silence.

No of course it doesn't cut one way, and that kind of abuse is abhorrent whichever way it goes. Obviously.

As for the violent attacks, those kinds of cases get shit loads of coverage (e.g. the Asian girl gang "happy slappers" who were front page of the Daily Heil three days running). The "wall of silence" myth is just that - a myth.

The fact there are white victims of racism is usually trotted out to somehow mitigate "traditional" racism (Well, they're just as bad etc etc). Not saying you're doing that. But racists are cunts whatever their skin colour or that of their victims. Was that your point?

[pauld]

I believe in proportional terms more racist murders have been committed against whites

And you believe this on what basis precisely? Because it's bollocks, whatever the Mail might try to imply

[Dostoyevsky]

I don't agree that instances like those receive anywhere like the same amount of coverage, take for example the very one you raise: the grooming of vulnerable white girls (happy-slappers is rather demeaning, don't you think?) from broken backgrounds, often in care homes, enticed into drug addiction by Asian men. This is something that has occurred in dozens of Northern towns and East Midland locations, and most likely still is, and there was this pathetic mantra amongst the media darlings that  "this isn't a racial thing", despite it being 99% British Pakistani/Bengali motivated. There, if ever, was an opportunity to confront racist attitudes amongst segments of the Asian community towards white women. The opportunity passed discreetly by. How cowardly  >:

The leit motiff whenever racism is discussed is Steven Lawrence, how's about next time the scourge of racism is challenged we have as the poster boy someone like Kriss Donald.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald

I'll hazard a guess you weren't aware of this repulsive Asian on white racist murder?

[Dostoyevsky]

Here's another example. This time in Peterborough. Once again, I doubt the vast majority on this forum heard a whisper about this at the time. However, racist ramblings on Twitter command top rank headlines. Something wrong here, surely?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ross_Parker

[pauld]

I don't agree that instances like those receive anywhere like the same amount of coverage, take for example the very one you raise: the grooming of vulnerable white girls (happy-slappers is rather demeaning, don't you think?)

Oh FSS, you pillock. "Happy slappers" refers to people who get pissed and beat strangers up without provocation. Like loads of scummy kids of all races do, sadly, each week in most cities. There was a case a few months back where a couple of Asian girls had done this and their victims were white and the Mail went mental about it. The point being the racial background was irrelevant, it was drunken dickheads being scrotes, only those with an agenda to push brought the race into it.

Much like the grooming you thought I meant. Because yes there are Asian paedos. But there's been hundreds of white paedos (and grooming rings) over the years. You may have noticed some of them being mentioned in the papers of late? They're scum, all of them. They're not white scum, Asian scum or black scum especially, they're just scum, irrespecitive of the colour of their skin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald

I'll hazard a guess you weren't aware of this repulsive Asian on white racist murder?

Of course I was. As was anyone who reads the news. It was all over the news at the time and rightly so. Just like Stephen Lawrence, Anthony Walker and all the dozens of others. Your point? Or are you just wanting to do the general "Oooh, them Asians they're a bad lot but you can't say so can you? Political correctness gone mad that's what it is" thing?

[Dostoyevsky]

Oh FSS, you pillock. "Happy slappers" refers to people who get pissed and beat strangers up without provocation. Like loads of scummy kids of all races do, sadly, each week in most cities. There was a case a few months back where a couple of Asian girls had done this and their victims were white and the Mail went mental about it. The point being the racial background was irrelevant, it was drunken dickheads being scrotes, only those with an agenda to push brought the race into it.

Much like the grooming you thought I meant. Because yes there are Asian paedos. But there's been hundreds of white paedos (and grooming rings) over the years. You may have noticed some of them being mentioned in the papers of late? They're scum, all of them. They're not white scum, Asian scum or black scum especially, they're just scum, irrespecitive of the colour of their skin.
Of course I was. As was anyone who reads the news. It was all over the news at the time and rightly so. Just like Stephen Lawrence, Anthony Walker and all the dozens of others. Your point? Or are you just wanting to do the general "Oooh, them Asians they're a bad lot but you can't say so can you? Political correctness gone mad that's what it is" thing?

Paul, ad hominem attacks won't work with me, don't feed me that cliched crap.

[Dostoyevsky]

Kriss Donald's case was subject to a D-Notice, on police insistence, which is to say for the sake of "racial harmony" the media were very much constrained as to how they were allowed to cover the case.

For my sins I listen to TalkSport and the irritating afternoons newscaster has this obssession with Twitter remarks regarding race. The people who make these utterances are morons but the coverage is of absurd dimensions.

As Coca Fola will tell you, and of my nearby origin also, if nasty names are the height of this country's problems, then things are pretty cushty. But then, as I detail, there's more to this pogram on racists than meets the eye. Much goes conveniently unmentioned. I defy you to tell me the Kriss case was all over the papers. Arrant nonsense.

[Dostoyevsky]

I'm the least divisive person you could meet, yet sametimes I can't stand the hippocracy surrounding the subject of racism. Cuts in every direction. Personally i'm sick of people drawing attention to differences and worse still, those who would thrive upon, like this lawyer, who hide behind a veil of social justice.

I have no truck with you Paul but I don't like going down this well worn road. There is no monopoly on victimhood, everyone has suffered. Get on with life, and these professional leaches who stoke the flames of percieved racism can go to hell.