Society of Black Lawyers

[fittons_coaching_badge]

I'm considering starting up an organisation aimed at British Indian Swindon Town Fans.

I am member 0000001.
Who wants to be member 0000002?

[kerry red]

You have to remember that race relations is an industry. People involved have a vested interest in keeping the subject high in public awareness.

Almost as abhorrent as racism itself, though, is the idea of 'positive discrimination' - the idea that any coaching/managerial vacancy should have a certain percentage of black applicants is not the way forward.

[sonicyouth]

I'm considering starting up an organisation aimed at British Indian Swindon Town Fans.

I am member 0000001.
Who wants to be member 0000002?

careful, you'll upset the huge membership of Norwegian Swindon Town Fans

[Barry Scott]

I really don't see the point of any organisation which limits its memberships and activities to a specific race or skin colour. If anything it does more harm to getting rid of racism as it causes more segregation rather than integration. Still find it amazing that they allow them, can't see them allowing a Society of White Lawyers.

The other issue is that the people running these organisations always come across as extremists to me, the head of the Society of Black Lawyers being a prime example. Think he was the one pushing for a black players association last week. All they do is shit stir which doesn't help anyone or anything in the long run.

Whilst they are viewed as black lawyers rather than lawyers we've got a problem that needs solving.

Quite right. I never even thought of people by their skin colour until I got older and read papers and things. I know this sounds strange, but even recently I didn't even notice the skin colour of some of my friends until someone or something raised the non-issue.

Morgan Freeman couldn't have put it better.

[Dostoyevsky]

I am setting up a half Serbian, quarter Welsh, quarter Scottish, Berlin born jobless scrounger society.

[jonny72]

You have to remember that race relations is an industry. People involved have a vested interest in keeping the subject high in public awareness.

David James said the same thing in an interview recently;

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/david-james-antiracism-groups-just-try-to-justify-existence-8207873.html

[nevillew]

I'm considering starting up an organisation aimed at British Indian Swindon Town Fans.

I am member 0000001.
Who wants to be member 0000002?

You could call it 'organisation' instead of 'fans'     aaahhh!

[fittons_coaching_badge]

I am setting up a half Serbian, quarter Welsh, quarter Scottish, Berlin born jobless scrounger society.

Ah well.  You wont qualify for my set up!

[Dostoyevsky]

Ah well.  You wont qualify for my set up!

My best mate is called Javinder Singh so i've not given up all hope

[jonny72]

Quite right. I never even thought of people by their skin colour until I got older and read papers and things. I know this sounds strange, but even recently I didn't even notice the skin colour of some of my friends until someone or something raised the non-issue.

If you didn't notice someones skin colour you must be colour blind. But I know what you mean, had the same thing happen to me - "you never told me they were black", "I don't say if they're white so why would I?".

Thing is that we give people labels based on their appearance or other characteristics all the time; hair colour, fat/thin, bald/hairy, male/female, skin colour, height and so on. Doesn't seem right that you can call someone a fat c*nt or ginger tw*t and get at worst a slap on the wrists but say black c*nt or Spanish tw*t and you've broken the law (and will be punished more for the word black than Spanish).

Seems fucked up to me.

Totally agree about Morgan Freeman, if only everyone thought the same the world would be a far better place.

[Batch]

I'm considering starting up an organisation aimed at British Indian Swindon Town Fans.

I am member 0000001.
Who wants to be member 0000002?

Do you have to be British Indian to join?

[fittons_coaching_badge]

Do you have to be British Indian to join?

I t would help, but as take up so far hasnt been high I am no place to be picky!

[cheltred69]

I am setting up a half Serbian, quarter Welsh, quarter Scottish, Berlin born jobless scrounger society.

if you just restrict it to half Serbian my wife can join - so that would double your membership!

[pauld]

You have to remember that race relations is an industry. People involved have a vested interest in keeping the subject high in public awareness.

Which reminds me of the appalling woman Daily Mail pundit I heard on the radio at the weekend saying the Jimmy Saville thing was being stoked up by the "child abuse industry". Yes, people are employed to prevent abuses in both areas, and therefore have a financial interest in ensuring the issue is kept high up the agenda but that doesn't mean there isn't a problem. This guy sounds like a knob, and, like the John Terry case before it, it's ludicrous to involve the police in this, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater, eh?

[ghanimah]

Which reminds me of the appalling woman Daily Mail pundit I heard on the radio at the weekend saying the Jimmy Saville thing was being stoked up by the "child abuse industry". Yes, people are employed to prevent abuses in both areas, and therefore have a financial interest in ensuring the issue is kept high up the agenda but that doesn't mean there isn't a problem. This guy sounds like a knob, and, like the John Terry case before it, it's ludicrous to involve the police in this, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater, eh?

Agree, though worth worth noting also that some in the BBC have tried to argue that the whole case regarding Savile has been merely the result of "BBC bashing".

John Terry case was a mess, should never have involved the Police and nor should this one...which appears to be less than conclusive...especially given the very conflicting evidence