Milliband

[mystical_goat]

Politics can be a pretty tedious subject for discussion. But as someone who, out of the two possible winners of an election, leans to the left, this sounds promising:

http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/slKZj6HNZmVn5iLRAfqL-dQ/view.m?id=15&gid=commentisfree/2012/oct/02/ed-miliband-one-nation-genius&cat=commentisfree

[ghanimah]

Another meaningless slogan that will be ditched when Labour win in 2015 (Milliband doesn't have to actually try, Tories won't win the next election nor any other one in the foreseeable future).

[janaage]

What an awful article, written by some pro-labour bum chum of Millibands no doubt. Milliband likeable? You kidding me. God help us if this muppet gets anywhere near 10 Downing Street, as he, somehow, comes across as more smarmy and more clueless than Cameron.

I'm no tory, but I'll definitely be hoping that Balls and Millband are left licking their wounds by the end of the next election, as both would be dangerous to the recovery of Britain.

That's not to say Osbourne and Cameron have got everything right, but I'd personally rather have them leading us out the mire than the two Eds.

As for One Nation Labour - give me a break.

[Samdy Gray]

Same shit, different party.

One huge popularity contest up until they get elected; then they panic and don't have a fucking clue how to run the country.

[janaage]

You're not wrong Sam.

[Abrahammer]

I'm no tory, but I'll definitely be hoping that Balls and Millband are left licking their wounds by the end of the next election, as both would be dangerous to the recovery of Britain.

That's not to say Osbourne and Cameron have got everything right, but I'd personally rather have them leading us out the mire than the two Eds.

As for One Nation Labour - give me a break.

Feel pretty much the same.

With the Tories we have the best of the bad bunch.

Labour made the wrong Milliband leader IMO.  David seems pretty clued up whilst Ed is pathetically feeble who who has made himself unelectable to lead the country

[janaage]

I'm hoping his a modern day Neil Kinnock. The population don't mind him as leader of the opposition but wouldn't give him a second to actually run the country.

[Arriba]

Not my idea of a prime minister. That said policies mean more than the individual speaking.

[Nemo]

I'm a Guardian reading pinko lefty and I took that article with a pinch of salt comparable to the size of the boiled off Dead Sea. Miliband is hopeless. He might still win though as the coalition are as popular as cancer. If our system was remotely set up to allow it, it would be a great time to launch a fourth party.

[kerry red]

Shouldn't make any difference, but his appearance just doesn't equate to a PM

Whenever I see him, I think Mr Bean

It still baffles me how, after God knows how many examples, anyone really bothers to vote for any party.

Does anything really change. I'm sure if there was no government things would still trundle along.

Of the people, for the people, my arse

[janaage]

Shouldn't make any difference, but his appearance just doesn't equate to a PM

Whenever I see him, I think Mr Bean

Appearance and public speaking etc. does matter though. As whether the bloke has a presence is key to his leadership abilities. In my line of work there are those who come along to events and you wouldn't know they're there, and there are others who when they walk into a room, you think, yep so and so's here. Because they almost attract your attention, as they have the presence. They also back it up by knowing their stuff which is equally as important, but in politics when you think of all the international events they have to attend, having that certain something can be key to getting things done.

[Nemo]

Shouldn't make any difference, but his appearance just doesn't equate to a PM

Whenever I see him, I think Mr Bean

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It's not Bean...

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[pauld]

What an awful article, written by some pro-labour bum chum of Millibands no doubt. Milliband likeable? You kidding me. God help us if this muppet gets anywhere near 10 Downing Street, as he, somehow, comes across as more smarmy and more clueless than Cameron.

I'm no tory, but I'll definitely be hoping that Balls and Millband are left licking their wounds by the end of the next election, as both would be dangerous to the recovery of Britain.

That's not to say Osbourne and Cameron have got everything right, but I'd personally rather have them leading us out the mire than the two Eds.

Pretty much the same as I feel, but just the other way round - I despise Balls and Milliband just not quite as much as Cameron and Osbourne. My brother in law was invited to a "Tories in the City" (or something) fundraiser before the last election at which he met Osbourne and it actually stopped him voting Conservative so appalled was he by the man. "Wouldn't trust him in charge of his own bowels" was, IIRC, his verdict. He's done little in office to reverse that view. But I agree with your broad thrust that it's wafer thin as to which shower of shit seems less competent/trustworthy. I think Paul's "bowels" verdict applies equally well to all of them.

[kerry red]

Not that I've got any evidence to back this up, but do you not think government was better with higher quality politicians, before the TV era - when there was no, or very little PR or having to be photogenic.

Michael Foot was a brilliant politician but looked like a horse's arse. Was he wasted on the country just because he looked like he did?

[janaage]

That's a really good point Kerry!  And 100% understand where you're coming from Paul.

Politics eh?