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« Reply #210 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 18:52:49 »

not having seen any games this season, which is it? or is it just somewhere in between and he's had a poor game today?

Probably this.
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« Reply #211 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 18:57:28 »

Going forward Devera is shit.  No quality on the ball at all.  This has always been the same.  Defence wise hes ok.  Will win headers as hes a centre half and tackles.  We won games before so his lack of forward quality was covered over.

Last season most fans think our main strength was the triangle of Caddis, Ferry and Ritchie.  We had that link up. Caddis giving us a natural right footed crosser down that side, with Ritchie cutting back onto his left and shooting.  It balanced well.  We have now lost that balance.
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« Reply #212 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 19:00:50 »

The worst thing I can say about today was it was almost like watching Paul Hart's Swindon Town.

Except we really did have two up front Smiley

It really was that shit
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« Reply #213 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 19:03:01 »

The worst thing I can say about today was it was almost like watching Paul Hart's Swindon Town.

Except we really did have two up front Smiley

It really was that shit

Only two?  I thought Hart played three up top?
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« Reply #214 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 19:03:50 »

Midfield bypassed and no build up from the back.  Why?   SciFi changed the pattern a little but the touch remained poor thereafter. 

Williams was manhandled by Chorley all afternoon and it was clear that the ref would give nothing so he needed to man up or earn a dangerous free kick.  Devera - an honest centre half but nowhere for their back post goal and and when he finally got Caddis-like onto a great ball into their penalty area he smashed it wastefully into the sidenetting.  On the other flank Bessone generally fluffed passes and crosses all afternoon and failed to give De Vita any options that could have hurt Orient.  I thought Adam Rooney looked like he could be useful and it was a well timed run that earned him his fluffed chance (but I thought he was under subtle unbalancing pressure from two Orient defenders)

Ultimately there was a real absence of clusters of players supporting one another before looking to switch play or cross etc and way too much hit and hope and look for the knockdown.

Ritchie took a rocketing volleyed cross plum in the face but was up and running really quickly.  He does put in a shift both ends and it was good to see his extension to 2013 had been completed.

I suppose we will have to see how PDC manages his large squad and how they gell and combine.  Personally I'm used to a younger player coming in (eg Storey, Thomson etc) if need be and being looked after by the senior pros and a regular starting 11 with 2 or 3 preffered subs who really understand one another's game. 

Looking forward to Roberts coming back but no player can do much on his own and today was not a team performance
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« Reply #215 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 19:10:51 »

a couple of weeks ago Devera was the answer and a more than capable replacement for Caddis and now he's entirely useless.

not having seen any games this season, which is it? or is it just somewhere in between and he's had a poor game today?

He's no replacement for Caddis

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(but I thought he was under subtle unbalancing pressure from two Orient defenders)

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« Reply #216 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 19:19:55 »

To be fair to Rooney I think maybe he should have dived under the challenge, he did look like his the ground was made of toffee as he was running, I did think he would score though saying that but it was a very poor miss in the end.

Devera was drawn in to centre back too often leaving the winger out free, at times we did look like we were playing with a left back and 3 centre backs, and his shot at the townend was very poor when a cross would have been better.

But saying that Orient had a game plan to stop us playing and they did that very well if not in an attractive way, add to that some awful timewasting (a well known Slade trick) and a dubious ref and it just wasn't going to be our day.
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« Reply #217 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 19:27:02 »

The weird thing was it wasn't just a case of us hoofing it up because we were lacking ideas, it seemed to be Di Canio's gameplan from the beginning. If they weren't doing what he'd told them he'd have been leaping up and down and giving them a rollicking, but while we were all muttering discontent as another ball sailed over Williams or Collins head he sat placidly accepting in his dugout without complaint. The even weirder thing is that he should think that the correct gameplan to match-up at home to Leyton Orient, bottom of the table with no points, with big centre-backs who could comfortably head those balls away all day, battling with Williams and Collins two strikers who's strengths are pace and balls played into their feet!
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« Reply #218 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 19:38:07 »

The weird thing was it wasn't just a case of us hoofing it up because we were lacking ideas, it seemed to be Di Canio's gameplan from the beginning. If they weren't doing what he'd told them he'd have been leaping up and down and giving them a rollicking, but while we were all muttering discontent as another ball sailed over Williams or Collins head he sat placidly accepting in his dugout without complaint. The even weirder thing is that he should think that the correct gameplan to match-up at home to Leyton Orient, bottom of the table with no points, with big centre-backs who could comfortably head those balls away all day, battling with Williams and Collins two strikers who's strengths are pace and balls played into their feet!
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« Reply #219 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 19:43:44 »

That was shit from start to finish. No players come out of that with any credit -nor does Pdc who could do nothing to change the game. Ferry was the obvious sub but he was dogshit too.
Tactically we were totally inept. Physically we were totally inept. As against the Scum I didn't think the players gave too much of a shit. Did we win a second ball all game? Every physical challenge was lost. Hoofing the ball up - unless it was a PdC tactic - is normally the sign of a team lacking confidence or scared. I'm pretty sure if I was Flint, devera or devita, I'd be feeling a bit shit after what was said Wednesday. i just hope Pdc isn't losing the dressing room.
Fair play to Orient thuogh. They'd done their homework and if it was 3-0 it would have been a fairer result.
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« Reply #220 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 19:44:29 »

and I'd take their no 21 from them - cracking game
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« Reply #221 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 19:44:43 »

Poor performance and hope that this was just a blip but too many players looked as if they really did not want to be out there even PdC was noticeably absent from the touchline for most of the game. Also hope that all the shenanigans since the start of the season is not making them too worried about making the smallest mistake, hence the "I will get rid of the ball as quick as possible so I cannot be faulted" crept into the play and is not what I expected or want to see.

Full marks to Orient as they did a job on us and we did not have the players on the pitch to change a game to any extent which is a bit of a worry as is the inability of our strikers to strike. Had this one down as three home points with a zero up at Carlisle so anything up there would be a bonus.

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« Reply #222 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 19:56:17 »

Navarro and Miller need to be replaced by our 2 best players - Ferry and Bostock.

No point subbing two forwards for another 2 forwards when there's no creativity in midfield.

Players look full of fear after Pdc's week long rant of slating them - nobody wanted to be the one who made a mistake and incurring further wrath.

This defeat falls at PdC's feet
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« Reply #223 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 19:57:29 »

i just hope Pdc isn't losing the dressing room.



That did cross my mind once or twice today. Then you think, well with Ritchie signing a contract extension it can't be possible
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« Reply #224 on: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 20:02:47 »

Has anyone posted the comments from the interviews yet?
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