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« Reply #75 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:55:42 »

Bodin Jnr is offered a contract
Bodin Snr (probably) recommends Jnr not to sign it.
Contract is not signed largely because of Snrs advice and when Jnr is not invited for training as a result, Bodin Snr complains to the boss.....

But because he's a legend, Snr should be given more respect?
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« Reply #76 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:57:37 »

It's a shame this appears to be ending with a sour taste after all Paul Bodin has done for the club. Whilst we don't have the full picture, a club legend deserves more respect than that article suggests he has received.
If someone isn't up to the job then he must be moved on, easy, no sentiment in football.

If Man Utd came in and offered Bodin snr a job as head of football development on double his wages do you think he would have stayed loyal to us? of course he wouldn't'.

There is no loyalty in football at any level, money talks and so does achievement in the game at the current job level, which Bodin has not been successful at.

Good servant to the club in his 3 periods with us as player and youth management but time to move on now and let Paolo bring in his own staff throughout every level at the club.
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« Reply #77 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:02:00 »

PDC spot on here imo. If Bodin doesnt want to sign the contract, then why should we train an out of contract player
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« Reply #78 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:06:14 »

Good servant to the club in his 3 periods with us as player and youth management but time to move on now and let Paolo bring in his own staff throughout every level at the club.

Really?

Like you say there is no loyalty at any level in football?  What if we get away to a flyer and Paolo gets a job offer from a club further up the food chain and proceeds to take all the people he has put in place at the CG with him.

All of a sudden we would find ourselves without key personnel in key positions throughout the club as it is highly PDC would take those he brought in with him.

Whilst I agree that the manager should be given a free reign to handle the first team and first team matters, I would be highly uncomfortable with a manager who has such a strong hold over the club as a whole.

JW and NW need to think long term and not just of the PDC era.
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« Reply #79 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:12:51 »



JW and NW need to think long term and not just of the PDC era.

How can wanting the right coaching staff, especially at youth level, mean the club are not thinking long term?
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« Reply #80 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:14:24 »

How can wanting the right coaching staff, especially at youth level, mean the club are not thinking long term?

Which is fine as long as the man they pick is not someone who is going traipse off when PDC goes.
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« Reply #81 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:15:00 »

I fully understand what you are saying FCB but if we are planning long term and Poalo is honest in stating he wants to stay with us for the long term then JW has to trust PdC fully and let him decide if he wishes to bring in his own staff IMO.
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« Reply #82 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:16:03 »

Which is fine as long as the man they pick is not someone who is going traipse off when PDC goes.

How do you know PB won't just traipse off at any minute anyway?
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« Reply #83 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:16:04 »

Really?

Like you say there is no loyalty at any level in football?  What if we get away to a flyer and Paolo gets a job offer from a club further up the food chain and proceeds to take all the people he has put in place at the CG with him.


If he takes them you get new ones...

The most important member of the staff is the manager, when/if he leaves, the others all pale into insignificance. I can't imagine, should Paolo leave, we'll be worried about the youth team coach leaving with him.

If Paolo wants to run the club from top to bottom, Paolo should be allowed. Perhaps having his mentality instilled within the youngsters will improve the quality of our players. It could mean we have more technically gifted youngsters and players who grow to play the game better. It's not like the current set-up is comparable to Crewe or Crystal Palace, so changing it doesn't really lose much imo.
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« Reply #84 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:17:27 »

Which is fine as long as the man they pick is not someone who is going traipse off when PDC goes.

I agree with this, there needs to be stability in the youth coaching at least. Doesn't do anyone any good if when Paolo leaves he brings all of his men with him, you can get away with that at 1st team level but it's good to have stability on the youth side. Whether PB is that man I honestly don't know.
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« Reply #85 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:37:36 »

Even if PDC is only here for another year, and his youth team staff left with him, it still means the youths have still had the best possible coach for one year. Would people rather they didn't have the best possible coaching staff just for the sake of stability? Should we just go for an average option just because it means they'll be hanging around for longer?

I don't know either whether or not PB is the best option, although I'm pretty sure that PDC is qualified enough to have a valuable opinion on the matter.
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« Reply #86 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:48:10 »

I think PDC has to be honest and be given the time and free reign to build the club from top to bottom. If he wants the transisation from youth to first team to be smooth and seamless then the youths have to play the same way as the first team. This will take time to implement, but will only work if he stays for the long haul and is given the tools he needs to work with.
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« Reply #87 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 09:10:03 »

Really?

Like you say there is no loyalty at any level in football?  What if we get away to a flyer and Paolo gets a job offer from a club further up the food chain and proceeds to take all the people he has put in place at the CG with him.

All of a sudden we would find ourselves without key personnel in key positions throughout the club as it is highly PDC would take those he brought in with him.

There is no 'what if' about it. He will go to a higher league club at some stage (based on current progress)
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« Reply #88 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 09:16:33 »

When Paolo does leave I would like to think we would be an attractive proposition for most managers
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« Reply #89 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 09:50:22 »

They do this a lot in Italy.
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Not so much in England.
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