Adver News: Wilder points the finger at Town players

[Azza]

Neither really, look you were pulling 5-6k in the conference and have the second? highest aggregate in L2. You said that Wilder has improved year on year and I'm wondering if getting out of the conference and playoffs (so far) is that good or simply the minimum.

[Costanza]

Oxford have enjoyed two more seasons in the promised land than us... but they have little over 20 seasons worth of experience above the 3rd Tier and a heck of a lot of Non-League football.

If division entitlement existed, which it doesn't, they could argue a place in the 3rd tier. Much like us.

[Azza]

For us I think the minimum is upper L1 and if Championship ever came I'd fucking love it.

[Arriba]

What's got your goat, arriba? Or need I ask. You're normally pretty level-headed. Time to indulge in a Bob Marley cigarette maybe.

nothing got my goat fella. thought my post was reasonable to be honest.

[Simon Pieman]

Your points tally this season will be higher than ours, that is a certainty. But I don't believe that Di Canio would've been able to get us out of the Conference with the strict budget we had and continue to have. And I wouldn't want my club to be known as Joe Bloggs' Oxford United. For that reason I'm more than happy with our man. Our side has improved in each of the three years that he's been here, and he's always come up trumps in the big games. Whether you know it or not, he has been a very good manager for us, on and off the pitch.

FWIW a manager who does a good job regardless of his stature is a manager worth having.

If you had a choice between going places from where you as "Di Canio's team" compared to stagnation you would take it. All ifs and buts as we've neither been promoted and pushing on and you have not yet stayed down but if Di Canio was doing a poor job and another non-name was doing a good one I know which I'd choose.

But managers who are 'too big' for the team they manage(d):

Paul Ince - More player pedigree than Di Canio you could argue. Did a decent job until he went beyond his capability then turned to shit. Clearly not too big for Franchise.

Hamman - Worked out terribly.

Lawrie Sanchez - Not doing too well. The fans and players have realised what an arrogant cunt he is.

Peter Taylor - Managed around this level the last few jobs and under-performed.

Aidy Boothroyd - Another known name. Is he proving he is too big for a club like Northampton?


That's just a quick off the top of my head selection, there are plenty more examples. Some of those are experienced heads and some are/were rookies. Clearly no team is too small for a manager unless he has unrealistic goals.

[oxford_fan]

Neither really, look you were pulling 5-6k in the conference and have the second? highest aggregate in L2. You said that Wilder has improved year on year and I'm wondering if getting out of the conference and playoffs (so far) is that good or simply the minimum.

Considering that least season we finished just outside the play-offs, the minimum this season is a place there.

The chairman and owner both like Wilder a lot, and have a very good working relationship. Like most fans, they recognise that he's achieved whilst adhering to strict budgets. If we failed to make the play-offs this season I think they'd keep him, though it would be acknowledged that we underachieved but did so in a more competitve league than last year whilst maintaining financial stability.

Based on attendances we, like you I expect, would hope to be around the top of L1, going up to the Championship now and then. We want to get to the Championship to regularly get attendances that would justify the building of the 4th stand, and the closer we get (to the Championship) the more the possibility of buying the ground back, which is desirable and would be a significant financial gain.

Like Costanza says we've had less time in the league than you but achieved more. That's part of why I completely disagree with this "Oxford are tin pot" nonsense. For every "Oxford are tinpot they're proposing a DVD of the derby" there's a "Swindon are tinpot they want a plaque for beating Wigan reserves in the second round of the cup". If you think that you are somehow superior then you are deluded. Same sort of attendances, league records, cups/championships won, size if ground, ultimate goals as a club, fan base. Like someone said on here the other day, I'm all for the fun of the derby and our rivalry, done the right way it's brilliant. It's the epitomy of sport captured in one event. But away from the circus of derby day I respect Swindon fans because they've chosen to support their local side (a side which is similar in many ways to mine), a rare trait in modern sports fans. Now fuck off.

edit: the bit about being deluded isn't aimed at anyone in particular by the way.

[oxford_fan]

Probably not right to say "a rare trait in modern sports fans" either, it seems to just be football really.

[sonicyouth]

where has the plaque for the Wigan game thing come from?

[oxford_fan]

Di Canio was in the paper after the Wigan match saying there should be something in place to mark the achievement.

[sonicyouth]

oh lordy

[Shaw Rosso]

"The lads deserve for the club to do something special and put their names on the stadium," said the Italian, whose team fell behind in the first half to a goal from Callum McManaman before overturning that deficit through strikes from Alan Connell and Paul Benson.

"I know that normally you only do this when you win something big and I'm not necessarily saying [to put up] a statue, but even something small like a plaque with all their names because they have done something special. Even if I go on to become a Premier League manager and they go on to become Premier League players, this is to be remembered."

Fuck the plaque, i want a statue of PDC in the middle of the Magic Roundabout

[Dozno9]

The man could be onto something there.

[Benzel]

He got you a shiny new stadium...what's the problem?

Progress, so I've been told.

[Paolo69]

Whichever way you choose to dress things up OF, beating Wigan makes us the first league 2 team to beat a Prem team for 22 years and is something to be proud of.

Beating a rival in the same league as you, while commendable is surprisingly not such a great feat and happens much more frequently.

[Peter Venkman]

Di Canio was in the paper after the Wigan match saying there should be something in place to mark the achievement.

You obviously don't understand that he wasn't being entirely serious, I think you have been wooshed by Di Canio TBH.

Everyone knows he was being tongue in cheek about that statement.