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« Reply #165 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 18:53:43 »

we tell them to fuck off and point out they have contracts till July 2013 and there is fuck all they can do about it without harming their own careers.
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« Reply #166 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 18:54:22 »

I think we would be able to replace Caddis quite easily defensively, but he offers us so much going forward that no other full back in League 2 would give us. Ritchie is a huge threat and to lose both of them would be a real kick in the bollocks. Their value? £450k Caddis and £650k Ritchie, but as said throughout this thread we cannot lose them.

It is vital we keep them at least untill the summer, I think we would have to settle for play offs if they go. My main worry would be the reaction from Di Canio.
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« Reply #167 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 18:58:01 »

That's the thing, Paolo loves them both. He's already said that he now realises he would rather a 70% efficient Caddis over most other RBs going at this level. (or something to that effect).

I would love to think that the players feel the same way as Paolo and that by sticking together and getting promotion, we could have  a proper crack at L1 next season.
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« Reply #168 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 19:00:34 »

Not sure the players would want to leave. Not to Ipswich, not yet.

Stay and they get a (probable) Wembley cup final and get to be part of a (likely) successful promotion push.

Leave, and they find themselves in a relegation battle with a team whose manager is under pressure.

The summer will be a different matter however.
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« Reply #169 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 19:01:28 »

That's the thing, Paolo loves them both. He's already said that he now realises he would rather a 70% efficient Caddis over most other RBs going at this level. (or something to that effect).

I would love to think that the players feel the same way as Paolo and that by sticking together and getting promotion, we could have  a proper crack at L1 next season.

The Di Canio factor could work in our favour. Players either love him or hate him and I'm guessing most of the current (playing) squad love him. Who would want to play for that scouse twat Jewell!
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« Reply #170 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 19:03:05 »

I'd want at least 1m for Ritchie and 900k for Caddis 'take home'

Not 500k + future add ons that will probably not happen. Or 700k + a sell on %. Or 1.9m take off the sell on clause % Celtc and/or Portsmouth have.

Then - once you take that 1.9m factor in how much winning games, increased attendances, winning the paint pot and getting promoted is worth to us - and whack that on top for good measure.
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« Reply #171 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 19:04:32 »

I think that the current squad maybe with a few additions could genuinely challenge for promotion from league 1.

Obviously we have to get out of this league first, but I reckons it's do able.

As a player, I'd think playing under Paolo Di Canio who's arguably the lower league manager most in the "spotlight" at the moment, a very good chance of getting to Wembley followed by possibly multiple promotions. HAS to be seen as a better option than fucking off to Ipswich for an extra grand a week? or is that just me?
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« Reply #172 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 19:06:45 »

Not sure the players would want to leave. Not to Ipswich, not yet.

Stay and they get a (probable) Wembley cup final and get to be part of a (likely) successful promotion push.

Leave, and they find themselves in a relegation battle with a team whose manager is under pressure.

The summer will be a different matter however.
Exactly the point I was going to make and that Sir Sug just made. Surely staying at Swindon for another 5 months cannot be, under the circumstances, that unattractive a proposition Hmmm
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« Reply #173 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 19:07:37 »

But it's not an extra grand a week is it, Championship sides could easily offer double or triple what we pay- and however great an upside we think we might have, there isn't a club in the Championship which isn't a 'good move' on paper (except perhaps Portsmouth if AA is still hanging around).
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« Reply #174 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 19:08:56 »

Worth noting that Wray has said all along that ritchie said he will stay until january then see what happens.What happens then if dicanio accepts they can go if he believes he can bring in decent replacements?
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« Reply #175 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 19:10:28 »

Worth noting that Wray has said all along that ritchie said he will stay until january then see what happens.What happens then if dicanio accepts they can go if he believes he can bring in decent replacements?

If Di Canio sanctions it then it will happen. Personally I think it will be a mistake but you can't blame the club. The board must back their managers wishes. IF it did turn iout to be a mistake then it would be PDC's and his alone.
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« Reply #176 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 19:12:09 »

if Di Canio sees that either of the players have had their head(s) turned by this speculation, they'll be out of the team regardless.

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« Reply #177 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 19:12:36 »

IF PdC believes he can get suitable replacements in and he's happy with that AND Ritchie wants to go then that's a different matter.  The big issue to me would be attracting suitable players to a League 2 club at this stage of the season.
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« Reply #178 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 19:23:31 »

if Di Canio sees that either of the players have had their head(s) turned by this speculation, they'll be out of the team regardless.



Exactly its all very good to say that they have contracts etc, but if they want to leave we ain't going to pay them for 18 months to play in the stiffs (which we havent got anyway) we are not Man City.

Anyway sadly as its modern football.

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« Reply #179 on: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 19:24:48 »

£1.5m-1.8m is good money for those players but you can't put a price on getting out of this league and maintaining the momentum we're on, it's priceless, simple as that.
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