Caddis & Ritchie......

[Summerof69]

I hope Wray puts the 'Not for sale' sign for these two, until the summer at least.

Ipswich are owned by a guy whose business is mostly corporate hospitality at sporting events, and there are a lot of stories of illegal goings on like these :

http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2011/07/marcus-evans-scam-fraud-complaints-about-events-and-sales-pitch/

There was a story that he sold some corporate hospitality for the Rugby World Cup Final, but when the people tried to get in to the match...the tickets were fakes.

Nearly makes Diamond Mike sound legit.

[DRS]

Fuck me we got alot of deluded fans.Yes they would be a massive loss but if people think we can afford as a club to turn down massive bids then think again.

[chalkies_shorts]

they couldnt even afford our worst players

but they do take the occasional Sabin off of us

[Batch]

Fuck me we got alot of deluded fans.Yes they would be a massive loss but if people think we can afford as a club to turn down massive bids then think again.

Do you define £1.5M-£2M for the pair as massive?

Not having a pop, we will all have our own ideas on that.

[Simon Pieman]

Fuck me we got alot of deluded fans.Yes they would be a massive loss but if people think we can afford as a club to turn down massive bids then think again.

We will get bids in the summer too, I think people are saying we should wait until then and we can afford to do that imo.

[chalkies_shorts]

Do you define £1.5M-£2M for the pair as massive?

Not having a pop, we will all have our own ideas on that.

How many players leave the bottom division for proper money?

[DRS]

For league 2 players who were not great in league1 last year i think 2m is massive. Be hard pushed to see many players sell for that at this level

[Flashheart]

Fuck me we got alot of deluded fans.Yes they would be a massive loss but if people think we can afford as a club to turn down massive bids then think again.

I don't think 1.5 mil is massive.

Bearing in mind the financial loss we could encounter for missing out on promotion. And the fact we could still get around that mark if we sold at the end of the season.

1.5 mil is basically 750k each. Let's not forget it wasn't long ago the board rejected 600k for Ritchie

[OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR]

Fuck me we got alot of deluded fans.Yes they would be a massive loss but if people think we can afford as a club to turn down massive bids then think again.

Well I would certainly have thought that we could afford to hold off until the summer until we sell (if we sell.) I think selling them now would be far more damaging and would far out-weigh the financial benefits we would get from such a transaction.

Such as....not getting promoted...Di Canio walking away. The Club's got itself into a fantastic position and to sell these players now would be just sticking a fork in all of that. As has been said, if there's interest from other clubs now, it will still be there in the summer.

[stfcinbmth]

For league 2 players who were not great in league1 last year i think 2m is massive. Be hard pushed to see many players sell for that at this level

They weren't great because they were playing in a struggling side, they have blossomed this season. If they stay and we get promoted then we will see their true worth

[Peter Venkman]

The highest fees paid for players at this level from what I can make out are...

Jon Stead from Huddersfield to Blackburn £1.2mill in 2004.
Joe Hart from Shrewsbury to Man City £900,000 (after app fees) in 2006 as a 19 year old in 2006.
Luke Steele from Peterborough to Man Utd for £500k in 2002.

I personally think £1.5 million for our 2 best players is nowhere near enough, and considering a rumoured £800k from Boremuff has already been rejected it would be a fee of in excess of £1 million to get Ritchie and I feel a similar amount for Caddis (who would be more of a loss)

[cheltred69]

JW must realise that a sale of these 2 could be a catalyst to the end of his dreams of building something big at Swindon.

They would certainly be irreplaceable for a League 2 club in the time available in the January window.

If PdC doesn't sanction the sales he would be likely to walk.  There would be discontent in the rest of the squad.

Most likely outcome then would be that promotion isn't achieved.  The remaining decent players would want out.
A good number of fans would probably not renew season tickets, gates would fall and generally a decline would set in that would kill any chance of the ambitions being realised.

I don't think this is an over-pessimistic scenario.  We all know how vital automatic promotion is to this club and I can't believe that JW would take such a gamble on making a few quick bucks when he knows that the players value won't decline dramatically before the end of season window.

[stfcinbmth]

I don't think it's going to happen anyway. Wray has his head screwed on and will realise the possible consequences

[Batch]

For league 2 players who were not great in league1 last year i think 2m is massive. Be hard pushed to see many players sell for that at this level

I was just trying to establish what you thought a massive bid was.

My opinion is if it was summer I'd agree that that would be a massive amount of money and it would be understandable to sell. However in the context of where we are now I'd say selling has the potential to massively backfire. I think as a club we have real momentum now on the pitch and off it, but this could all be undermined by this sale if it were to stop our run or if we failed to go up.

I guess it all depends on the players, manager and most importantly how desperate we are to balance the books.

If the rumour is even true.

edit: Looks like cheltred69 made the point I was trying to. Thow shall refresh before posting.

[Arch Stanton]

JW must realise that a sale of these 2 could be a catalyst to the end of his dreams of building something big at Swindon.

They would certainly be irreplaceable for a League 2 club in the time available in the January window.

If PdC doesn't sanction the sales he would be likely to walk.  There would be discontent in the rest of the squad.

Most likely outcome then would be that promotion isn't achieved.  The remaining decent players would want out.
A good number of fans would probably not renew season tickets, gates would fall and generally a decline would set in that would kill any chance of the ambitions being realised.

I don't think this is an over-pessimistic scenario.  We all know how vital automatic promotion is to this club and I can't believe that JW would take such a gamble on making a few quick bucks when he knows that the players value won't decline dramatically before the end of season window.

Yes, not an over-pessimistic scenario at all, a very realistic view.

If they both go then we can definitely kiss goodbye to any chance of promotion this season, and then who knows? I'd hate to think of us drifting aimlessly about in this division for the foreseeable future.