Caddis & Ritchie......

[Saxondale]

Latest on that rumours site is now reporting that Ipswich want both caddis and scott cuthbert from Swindon town

Jesus. 

[Benzel]

Ha.

[Ralphy]

This cannot happen.

Fuck off to all the vultures.

[Jimmy Glass is an Alien]

Latest on that rumours site is now reporting that Ipswich want both caddis and scott cuthbert from Swindon town

Jesus. 

They can have Cuthbert, I think we can survive without him!

[DV]

Do you really think that they would go for that kind of money?!

No.

[Ardiles]

It was inevitable that bids would come in...and like all players, these two have a price.  In Ritchie's case, he'll be well aware that most consider him to be a Championship standard player, so it will come down to whether he

(a) wants to try his luck at that level right now; or
(b) wants to be a part of a promotion winning side at Swindon this year, before deciding his next move (or stay) in the summer.

It's in the players' hands as much as anything else.  Either way, I'm glad we're discussing this on Jan 15th and not on Jan 30th.  If something does happen in the next few days, Paolo will have 10 days/2 weeks to rebuild.  And he will have money to do it.

[Flashheart]

I ask the question as: Is derailing our promotion bid worth 1.5 m? I hope Wray asks himself the same question

Anyways, this is from that rumour site. This thread isn't worth the bandwidth it's written on... yet.

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And I've just had a look on the Ipswich site. All they have is from the same source.

[Flashheart]

And this from Gary Rose's Twitter

Unless anything developed today (which I doubt), there has been no bid for any Town players in 2012.

[Trashbat?]

If we get through this transfer window with no bids at all I will be surprised, But if there is a shred of truth in this and we ended up losing both players it would be a disaster of epic proportions.
JW & PDC need to be telling the players that the summer we will listen to bids but not in January, getting out this division is priority to this club. my only worry is we get any Austin situations this year which unsettle the team.

[Batch]

Lets be honest, if we were in mid table a "£1.5-£2million" would be a very fair offer worth considering.

But we aren't mid table. Selling these two now probably would see our promotion challenge die. Its OK holding out for some stupid amount of cash (let say £4M). But what if someone did pay it. It is extremely unlikely you will get players of that quality in to replace them. We are division 4 and are extremely lucky to have them here and now (and Ferry too for that matter).

God I hate January. Lets hope our promotion rivals have similar issue. I don't think they do though,

Crawley have Tubbs who may become a transfer target.
Southend I can't think of anyone.
Cheltenham, Shrewsbury don't know enough about their teams.

[Arriba]

Seeing that Ritchie is valued at £2 million on his own. I rate Caddis higher than Ritchie, got more potential and is more consistent. Would want around £3.5 million for the both of them, not £1.5-2 million. Murray is worth max £75k.

Sorry, but those figures are ridiculous.

[Flashheart]

Sorry, but those figures are ridiculous.

Are they though?

It's not necessarily about what the players are worth, but what it will take to convince us to part with them. Let's say we take 1.5 mil. How much would we have to pay for Rooney, for example, and a RB as good as Caddis? And how many good enough would be willing to play in L2 anyway?

[OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR]

Lets be honest, if we were in mid table a "£1.5-£2million" would be a very fair offer worth considering.

But we aren't mid table. Selling these two now probably would see our promotion challenge die. Its OK holding out for some stupid amount of cash (let say £4M). But what if someone did pay it. It is extremely unlikely you will get players of that quality in to replace them. We are division 4 and are extremely lucky to have them here and now (and Ferry too for that matter).

God I hate January. Lets hope our promotion rivals have similar issue. I don't think they do though,

Crawley have Tubbs who may become a transfer target.
Southend I can't think of anyone.
Cheltenham, Shrewsbury don't know enough about their teams.

Exactly and even in the extremely, extremely unlikely event that you could, they wouldn't be able to slot straight into the side and have the understanding with each other and the rest of the team which Caddis and Ritchie have. We're talking about two players who are the fulcrum of the side.

In short, we'd be fucked.

My view on this is that JW is desperate to get out of this division and desperate to hold on to Di Canio long term. Also, he is far from stupid and must know that neither of those things is going to happen if these players were allowed to leave, regardless of the amount of money involved.

And, unlike in days gone by, we don't have the tax man breaking down the door. We don't have to sell just to pay the bills. If they're worth 'x' million now, they will still be worth 'x' million in the summer if not more. Not that I'd be any keener on selling them in the summer.

[Flashheart]

Let's say Gillingham, for example, hold out for 500k for Rooney. Something they may well do. Whether or not Rooney is worth that is irrelevant, it's still what we will have to pay for him to get him.

And a RB replacement? I can't even think of one. Let's say another 500k which is by no means a stretch of the imagination.

That leaves us with only 500k left and two replacements that may or may not settle at the club. Or we spend less on replacements, on players that are inferior replacements.

1.5mil may be a reasonable evaluation of the players. But it is not enough for us to be able to confidently replace them.

[janaage]

It comes down to what the players want to do though, and what Di Canio wants.  If Ritchie and Caddis start getting their heads turned by other clubs and don't put in 100% I can see Di Canio cashing in on them as I believe his style of management needs that 100% buy in from all. Which is why bridges with Clarke could never be rebuilt. Just my take on it.