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« Reply #180 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 12:33:14 »

Is blaming it on labour not very simplistic?
Labours good work is forgotten due to the war in Iraq and the global financial meltdown.
I think they put alot of the mess left by the Tories right. They will have to do so again when they get the boot in the next general election.

What good work ? The only good thimg they did was leave the budgets as they were for the first few years when the country was actually making real good progress.
Then the rot started with the main culprit being Gordon Brown
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« Reply #181 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 12:43:39 »

that has to be the 1st time in my life i've read someone say that labour have to clean up the tories mess not vice versa
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« Reply #182 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 12:55:18 »

Well here you go again. Labour had to clear up from the mess the Tories left after nearly 2 decades of power.
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« Reply #183 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 13:01:13 »

that went well then Roll Eyes
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« Reply #184 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 13:33:06 »

I though Labour were the Tories now.
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« Reply #185 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 13:38:57 »

Labour, Tories, Monster Raving Loony Party....

Isn't it a Global crisis?
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« Reply #186 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 14:16:13 »

Is blaming it on labour not very simplistic?
Labours good work is forgotten due to the war in Iraq and the global financial meltdown.
I think they put alot of the mess left by the Tories right. They will have to do so again when they get the boot in the next general election.

Not sure exactly what mess it was that Labour had to clean up. Other than increasing public sector spending, which you could argue the Tories had cut too much. Except once Labour had spent all the cash on hand they carried on spending, borrowing more and more money, continuing the privatisation sell offs, raiding pension funds, increasing taxes and then coming up with new ways to borrow more money (e.g. PFI).

All of which is fine until the economy goes in to meltdown and the country finds itself leveraged to the max with little room to manoeuvre. Whilst it was a global meltdown, if we weren't in so much debt and had regulated our banking industry more we wouldn't be in as bad a mess as we are now.

Not sure it really matters who is in power now, everything is fucked and spiralling out of control. Though out of all the options I do think the Tory-LibDem coalition is the best one and I'd prefer that to continue over a Tory majority.
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« Reply #187 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 15:34:35 »

You forgot to add the Gold Reserves, which were sold off at a prcie that turned out to be rock bottom.

Oh to have some gold reserves now.
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« Reply #188 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 15:44:03 »

Ummmm, who's fault is it that we make next to fuck all in this country now?

Don't think that helps our cause to be honest.
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« Reply #189 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 16:02:43 »

Ummmm, who's fault is it that we make next to fuck all in this country now?

Don't think that helps our cause to be honest.

That's a bit of a myth;

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/22/manufacturing_figures/
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« Reply #190 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 16:03:33 »

Look it's simple. Like him or not, let's make Clarkson Employment or Transport Secretary or both!!!


Ok, he's a clever fella and managed to raise his profile in front of milions. That excepted, he only said what people were thinking.  His wording may have been a little bit over the top. But hey, most people were thinking it.

How many watch 'The One Show'?  8 - 9 million and only 5,000 compained!!  That means a lot agreed!!

Civil service - got  a job? = Yes

Civil Service - got a Pension? = Yes

Civil Service - got a pay rise?  = Yes


Private Sector - Got a job?  = A what??

Private Sector - Got a Pension?  = Whats that?

Private Sector - Got a Government funded 1% pay rise?  =  Don't be silly!!
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« Reply #191 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 16:08:51 »

Look it's simple. Like him or not, let's make Clarkson Employment or Transport Secretary or both!!!


Ok, he's a clever fella and managed to raise his profile in front of milions. That excepted, he only said what people were thinking.  His wording may have been a little bit over the top. But hey, most people were thinking it.

How many watch 'The One Show'?  8 - 9 million and only 5,000 compained!!  That means a lot agreed!!

Civil service - got  a job? = Yes




You've not noticed the huge cutting of jobs in the public sector then?  I'm receiving my second "at risk of redundancy" letter in two years on the 23rd December.  If I survive this time (I didn't last time - had to find another job which I was lucky to do) I'll be done for next year.  I'm not complaining, but I do think the public v private sector argument is often built on myths, misunderstandings and a touch of ignorance - on both sides.
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« Reply #192 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 16:34:51 »

A woman interviewed on the picket line on Wednesday said that she joined the Civil Service in the late 70's early 80's and she was on the picket line because the 'attack on her pension' wasn't what she joined up for!!

If she has lasted 30 odd years with any worries so far, lucky her..


Welcome to the real world luv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #193 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 16:41:32 »

You've not noticed the huge cutting of jobs in the public sector then?  I'm receiving my second "at risk of redundancy" letter in two years on the 23rd December.  If I survive this time (I didn't last time - had to find another job which I was lucky to do) I'll be done for next year.  I'm not complaining, but I do think the public v private sector argument is often built on myths, misunderstandings and a touch of ignorance - on both sides.

Might have helped if that twat Brown hadn't employed over a million new Public Sector Workers - there wouldn't be the need to get rid of so many posts now.....
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« Reply #194 on: Friday, December 2, 2011, 16:47:45 »

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