Public sector pensions strike?

[flammableBen]

I imagine that he'd have been one of the first up against the wall anyway.

[yeo]

oh my..I did a bad quote

[herthab]

oh my..I did a bad quote

I noticed, but was too polite to mention it.

[Simon Pieman]

I've just seen the Clarkson comments on the news. Can't believe it's got that much hype.

[jonny72]

Can't believe it's got that much hype.

One of the articles on the BBC website states they believe there was an organised campaign. It's backfired if there was, Clarkson is laughing all the way to the bank and the unions look a bit twatish as a number of people have back tracked on their stance once they'd actually heard the comments in context.

[Ironside]

stopping corperate tax evasion would fill the hole somewhat

It's one of the trade-offs that allow companies to set-up shop in the UK and provide mass emloyement.

The government taxes the employee's and not the employer...

[Arriba]

Am I missing something?

People want more money/better pensions.

The Country has fuck all money.

People go on strike for more money/better pensions.

The Country still has no money.

It's all very well hand-wringing about how unfair it is (Ask the thousands of private sector workers who either haven't had a pay rise at all, or been made redundant, how unfair things are) but the money has to come from somewhere, so who's willing to take a hike in taxation to pay for it? Not me.

Times are tough and will probably get tougher.

Yeah you are missing something. The strikers aint asking for 'more money/better pensions' for starters.
Also money is there as the fat cats are still creaming it off,and money is being wasted on europe and senseless wars we will never win.

[herthab]

Yeah you are missing something. The strikers aint asking for 'more money/better pensions' for starters.
Also money is there as the fat cats are still creaming it off,and money is being wasted on europe and senseless wars we will never win.

Thanks for clearing it up for me.

[Arriba]

Thanks for clearing it up for me.

is that it? i thought you'd at least argue a bit....

[Samdy Gray]

Also money is there as the fat cats are still creaming it off,and money is being wasted on europe and senseless wars we will never win.

So they're using public sector pension funds to pay EU subscriptions and fund wars? Pull the other one.

[Arriba]

So they're using public sector pension funds to pay EU subscriptions and fund wars? Pull the other one.

I didn't say that did I?
But it is the public purse and how they spend it. Robbing Peter to pay Paul. Even propping up the banks who got us into this mess with public money.
Governments have historically borrowed from pension pots though, as you mention it. They continually borrowed from the Royal mail for instance.

[Samdy Gray]

Yeah, forget the (already overstretched) defence budget or trying to stop the banking system from collapsing, let's bung it all in pension funds. At least the civil servants will be happy.

[Ardiles]

This strike was hardly a return to the 1970s, was it.  'Yep, we're all so hard up that we're going to withdraw our labour for one day, pack out shopping centres up & down the country and spend, spend, spend.  That'll show 'em.'

Probably the first time in history that a strike has improved the economy.

[jonny72]

Even propping up the banks who got us into this mess with public money.

You realise that if they hadn't propped up the main high street banks and instead let them collapse, we wouldn't be arguing about a few percent here and there on public sector pensions and that instead we'd all be running around waving our hands in the air shouting "oh fuck it's all turned to shit". The stuff going on Greece would look like a Butlins holiday camp compared to the time we'd be having.

Blaming the banks for the melt down is very simplistic. What about the governments that failed to control the financial industry and instead let it run riot?  Though personally I blame all the twats that voted Labour in to power and kept them there for so long.

[Arriba]

You realise that if they hadn't propped up the main high street banks and instead let them collapse, we wouldn't be arguing about a few percent here and there on public sector pensions and that instead we'd all be running around waving our hands in the air shouting "oh fuck it's all turned to shit". The stuff going on Greece would look like a Butlins holiday camp compared to the time we'd be having.

Blaming the banks for the melt down is very simplistic. What about the governments that failed to control the financial industry and instead let it run riot?  Though personally I blame all the twats that voted Labour in to power and kept them there for so long.

Is blaming it on labour not very simplistic?
Labours good work is forgotten due to the war in Iraq and the global financial meltdown.
I think they put alot of the mess left by the Tories right. They will have to do so again when they get the boot in the next general election.