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« Reply #75 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 14:55:21 »

For America, 9/11 provided the "good guy vs, bad guy" narrative it had been craving since the fall of the soviet union, and the end of the "COMMUNIST THREAT", with those dirty Moosleems taking that place.

We've had a similar thing here, although it's obviously been more tied in with domestic issues. Far right groups like the EDL and the BNP have jumped on the american ideology of bad guys vs good guys, whilst the rest of us probably actually know some Muslims and probably aren't worried about them blowing up our houses or living in our country.

It's interesting to note that there have been very few Islamic terrorist attacks across Europe in the last ten years, yet the media still link the idea of terrorism with Islam as if they are pretty much the same thing.

The EU records on terrorist attacks for the last year pretty much sums this up...

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I don't blame the media for this, in our brutal free-market world they have to report on things to sell newspaper, nobody wants to read anything which goes against their world view.

So the biggest fault is the massive failure of the BBC, which seems to have confused being unbiased with being neutral. They aren't the same thing, and you end up with the BBC news output being just another right wing copy of the commercial news media.

This has turned into a bit of a waffle, sorry. love you all x


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2011 https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/te-sat2011.pdf
2010 http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cmsUpload/TE-SAT%202010.pdf




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« Reply #76 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 17:23:50 »

Fact is for many years i have thought that only the two pilots and a backup should be allowed in the Cockpit at ANY time during a flight.
Even if the hijackers caused carnage in the plane with passengers they shouldn't have been able to access the cockpit which allowed them to use the planes as they did.
I still see the doors being opened willy nilly on flights....once they close the cabin doors then the cockpit doors should be shut the entire flight with no exceptions.
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« Reply #77 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 18:03:16 »

Fact is for many years i have thought that only the two pilots and a backup should be allowed in the Cockpit at ANY time during a flight.
Even if the hijackers caused carnage in the plane with passengers they shouldn't have been able to access the cockpit which allowed them to use the planes as they did.
I still see the doors being opened willy nilly on flights....once they close the cabin doors then the cockpit doors should be shut the entire flight with no exceptions.

You aren't gonna let the poor buggers have some food brought into them?

On a serious note though, do pilots have a shitter in the cockpit?  I've dont think i've ever seen a pilot use the pleb bogs on a flight before.
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« Reply #78 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 18:07:08 »

You aren't gonna let the poor buggers have some food brought into them?

On a serious note though, do pilots have a shitter in the cockpit?  I've dont think i've ever seen a pilot use the pleb bogs on a flight before.

Some do some don't...as for food surely even a 24 hour flight could see enough food stored in the cockpit rather than running the risk of some nutter gaining access to the flying area.
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« Reply #79 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 18:34:55 »

I'm slightly obsessed with all things NYC & went out of my way to visit ground zero when I was there, I would challenge anyone to go into the 9/11 memorial museum & not be moved
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« Reply #80 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 18:57:18 »

I was at work and my mate was picking me up early cause we where going to wrexham vs Bury (i think it was them)

didn't see a tv until we got up to a pub in wrexham so couldn't really grasp the scale of what had happened
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« Reply #81 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 20:38:02 »

I'm slightly obsessed with all things NYC & went out of my way to visit ground zero when I was there, I would challenge anyone to go into the 9/11 memorial museum & not be moved
I've sobbed at some of the documentaries that have been on in the last week, so I know it would affect me.  Will def go there when I finally visit New York.

As others have said,  however many times you watch the replays on tv, it's still unbelievable.  Somebody also mentioned the number of people who jumped.   I didn't realise until I watched a documentary the other night about some of the firefighters who died that people on thw ground were killed by jumpers landing on them.

The sheer terror of those jumping or trapped with no chance of escape is unimagineable. 
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« Reply #82 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 20:38:59 »

I'm watching children of 9/11 now
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« Reply #83 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 20:40:41 »

We had a minute silence outside the station yesterday
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« Reply #84 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 20:42:19 »

I wish I could have been in NYC yesterday - I think the way they do they two towers of light where the towers stood looks amazing
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« Reply #85 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 20:48:20 »

The flag unfurled at the Giants game was pretty incredible.
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« Reply #86 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 20:51:31 »

Was that the biggest flag in the world or something??
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« Reply #87 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 20:57:03 »

Was that the biggest flag in the world or something??
I'd be surprised if it isn't!
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« Reply #88 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 20:57:57 »

http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/ap_photo/20110911/all/l5442302.jpg
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« Reply #89 on: Monday, September 12, 2011, 21:12:22 »

I remember hearing shortly after 9/11 that the first firefighter to die at the scene was killed by a falling jumper. 90% of the people that died in the attacks were either at or above the points of the planes impacts. Hundreds of people made their way to the roof tops but with the smoke and heat some chose to jump. Horrifying stories still coming out about 9/11 so many years later.
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