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« Reply #45 on: Monday, May 23, 2011, 21:45:13 »

Name one thing that isn't science.
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« Reply #46 on: Monday, May 23, 2011, 21:46:02 »

Faith, particularity Scientology.

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« Reply #47 on: Monday, May 23, 2011, 21:46:09 »

Back to your lab coat and safety goggles Tefal. Go dip your Litmus paper in something.

Clearly physics is the best mainstream science Wink

tchh litmus paper is so a-levels! I did enjoy physics actually was considering doing it for my degree instead, but then i realised theres only certain aspects of it that i find interesting (mainly quantum stuff) and other topics like magnetism would bore the tits off me!
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« Reply #48 on: Monday, May 23, 2011, 21:48:18 »

Apologies, I thought you didn't see the benefits of science when you posted this

I hated History at school. I found it largely pointless and so quickly lost interest. We can learn from history, granted. But I didn't.

Any Science man has made available like vaccines etc to me is not science.

It has always been there,the make up of all vaccines is all natural and been on earth forever but has just taken us a while to find them and put all earths elements together as a vaccine.
Knowing how my lorry runs is a science to some but to me its just knowing how it works.
Now guessing how the earth evolved and how old rock is to the nearest millionth year is a kind of Science to me.
And lets not forget that the science that man made vaccines helped us with like the antibiotic is making man weaker as the years go by because the science that is our human body has been quick to become largely immune to them rendering them useless.
Thats not to say some simple Scientific realisations like people getting new cataracts for the eye is wonderfull because it is and of course organ transplant would have been laughed at 100 years ago,so yes of course science can be a wonderfull thing as well. Smiley
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« Reply #49 on: Monday, May 23, 2011, 21:48:41 »

To be honest its all too difficult for me. Scientists are modern day witches (no offence!)

I'd have loved to take physics further, but didn't have the maths skills for it.

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« Reply #50 on: Monday, May 23, 2011, 21:51:20 »

Any Science man has made available like vaccines etc to me is not science.

It has always been there,

Gravity has always been there.

It's been there gzillions of years before life on Earth existed. But gravity is science
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« Reply #51 on: Monday, May 23, 2011, 21:52:31 »

Any Science man has made available like vaccines etc to me is not science.

It has always been there,the make up of all vaccines is all natural and been on earth forever but has just taken us a while to find them and put all earths elements together as a vaccine.
Knowing how my lorry runs is a science to some but to me its just knowing how it works.
Now guessing how the earth evolved and how old rock is to the nearest millionth year is a kind of Science to me.
And lets not forget that the science that man made vaccines helped us with like the antibiotic is making man weaker as the years go by because the science that is our human body has been quick to become largely immune to them rendering them useless.
Thats not to say some simple Scientific realisations like people getting new cataracts for the eye is wonderfull because it is and of course organ transplant would have been laughed at 100 years ago,so yes of course science can be a wonderfull thing as well. Smiley

science is the future though, history is so...well, history! I think it's a science that people have been able to work out how things work in nature and then use them for useful things!
Don't get me wrong i enjoy history too, modern history though like the world wars etc, can't get too excited about all the different kings and whatnot though!
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« Reply #52 on: Monday, May 23, 2011, 21:55:47 »

Any Science man has made available like vaccines etc to me is not science.

But science is discovery through observation and experimentation (and litmus paper).

Take local lad Edward Jenner for example. He observed milk maids didn't get smallpox. And so he hypothesised that somehow the lesser strain of blisters protected them. He then proved his hypothesis through experimentation.

That there IS science (and a bit of history too). Maybe the smallpox vaccine was already naturally around in milk maids. But science realised this, developed a vaccine, tested a vaccine and made the world better.
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« Reply #53 on: Monday, May 23, 2011, 22:02:01 »

It's a shame that the pharma companies choose to ditch cures and instead focus on developing treatments. There's no money in finding a cure but vaccines and treatments generate revenue. This is why people in science are bad in my eyes...
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« Reply #54 on: Monday, May 23, 2011, 22:11:44 »

It's a shame that the pharma companies choose to ditch cures and instead focus on developing treatments. There's no money in finding a cure but vaccines and treatments generate revenue. This is why people in science are bad in my eyes...


Good point.
The best medicine for most illness is better living and the way we think.
A secret study in the US gave 20,000 people pain killers which were in fact nothing more than flour and water,91% said the tablets made them feel better,all in the mind and the Chinese who are at the forefront of modern science(i think) are the best users of this kind of medicine.

But of course as people have said many man/woman made inventions and ideas have helped us greatly.
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« Reply #55 on: Monday, May 23, 2011, 22:16:03 »

Back to your lab coat and safety goggles Tefal. Go dip your Litmus paper in something.

Clearly physics is the best mainstream science Wink

And physics is just applied chemistry Smiley Or is that the other way round? (Yes, I studied chemistry at A-level)

I like all science. It amazes me.
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« Reply #56 on: Monday, May 23, 2011, 22:30:45 »

Faith, particularity Scientology.

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It's chemical reactions in the brain. Or interactions between people - sociology, psychology. All science.
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« Reply #57 on: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 06:15:24 »

And physics is just applied chemistry Smiley Or is that the other way round? (Yes, I studied chemistry at A-level)

And they're both really maths at heart  Smiley
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« Reply #58 on: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 06:45:59 »

Name one thing that isn't science.

Studying the philosophy of science is interesting; some scientific anti realists might contend that the epistemology of leads to the idea that science isn't science.
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« Reply #59 on: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 07:40:53 »

You missed a word out when you copied that sentence.
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