Av

[The Grim Reaper]

Tony Robinson supports Bristol City.

Big fat no from me.

[Arriba]

i'm off to vote in a minute and still don't know what way to go.i've read the posts on here and done some research myself.both ways are flawed and i'm not entirely happy with either system. i think i'll spoil the paper.

[Bathtime]

i'm off to vote in a minute and still don't know what way to go.i've read the posts on here and done some research myself.both ways are flawed and i'm not entirely happy with either system. i think i'll spoil the paper.

Thats a joke...right?

[Arriba]

Thats a joke...right?

no.why you think that?

[Bathtime]

no.why you think that?

What the point of going to the polling station just to spoil the paper...you might as well stay at home?

[Arriba]

disagree,because at least anyone who spoils their vote has still taken the time to go and do so.

[Ardiles]

It's kind of the point.  Under FPTP, I (and millions of others) might as well walk in to the booth with a pair of scissors and make a snowflake out of the voting slip for all the effect it would have.  I think I might spoil mine too, now you mention it.

[Bathtime]

It's kind of the point.  Under FPTP, I (and millions of others) might as well walk in to the booth with a pair of scissors and make a snowflake out of the voting slip for all the effect it would have.  I think I might spoil mine too, now you mention it.

Havent you guys anything better to do today....mines a big fat NO

[No Longer Posh Red]

Simple question, what voting methods do the political parties use to vote for their leaders?

Yep, a version of AV (ie you have to get over 50% of the votes cast, or a majority, to win).

Do they therefore object to this for deciding the government because they think the population is too stupid to understand it?

[Arriba]

Simple question, what voting methods do the political parties use to vote for their leaders?

Yep, a version of AV (ie you have to get over 50% of the votes cast, or a majority, to win).

Do they therefore object to this for deciding the government because they think the population is too stupid to understand it?

it was because of this,and cameron telling us to vote no that i voted yes in the end.

[Nemo]

Simple question, what voting methods do the political parties use to vote for their leaders?

Yep, a version of AV (ie you have to get over 50% of the votes cast, or a majority, to win).

Do they therefore object to this for deciding the government because they think the population is too stupid to understand it?

I believe that under first past the post, the only current Party leader in power would be Clegg. David Davies definitely beat Cameron in the first round of voting, as did the other Milliband.

Quite funny really.

[Arriba]

another reason that sawayed me to a yes was that we wouldn't have to select more than one candidate,but you can if you want to.
think the no's will win anyway

[flammableBen]

another reason that sawayed me to a yes was that we wouldn't have to select more than one candidate,but you can if you want to.
think the no's will win anyway

Yeah, this is something that the yes campaigners should have really grabbed and made a point of making clear. Lot's of people seem to be annoyed about having to put down 3-4 people they wouldn't want, but you can still just vote for one person if you want.

I agree that no is probably going to win, the only thing I can think of is that maybe Yes voters are more likely to actually make the effort and vote. Don't think it will make enough difference though.

[pauld]

disagree,because at least anyone who spoils their vote has still taken the time to go and do so.

Exactly arriba. It's the difference between "I couldn't be arsed to turn up" and "I don't like/agree with any of the options I've been given". One is apathy, the other is active rejection. You go, girl!

[Summerof69]

I'm voting no because 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it.'

Also, I think FPTP is fairer. Peoples mention PR, but that way you will no longer be able to pick your constituent MP, and you will no longer be able to force out an MP you don't like (it's always funny when one of the Cabinet gets voted out at a General Election), as you will voting for a party instead, and they will decide who becomes an MP. AV's been put forward as a compromise between the two but it stinks. You're brought up under 'One Person, One Vote' but that doesn't apply in AV. There will be additional costs if AV came in via longer counts (if the first count didn't get an absolute majority, they'll have to reallocate other votes meaning they'll have to count again) or machines to work it all out (whether it'll cost the money what the No camp says I do not know).