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« Reply #285 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 23:24:59 » |
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People are forgetting that last season we OVER-ACHIEVED so banging on how far we've fallen is a moot point.
Fuck off did we OVERACHIEVE! We're one of the biggest clubs in this Division. We've certainly one fo the richer clubs. Being around the play-offs should be the minimum level of achievement. Shit some people are happy to accept mediocrity.
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« Reply #286 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 23:26:29 » |
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Thinking about it, that King season was similar to last season.
We were dodgy until December then stepped up and went on a mad run after that....
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« Reply #287 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 00:00:26 » |
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Fuck off did we OVERACHIEVE! We're one of the biggest clubs in this Division.
Lumps, pull your head out of your arse. As someone else said earlier best season in something like 15 years. The norm for this club is mid table in this division with an occasional foray into the play-offs which is exactly what we've done. This season has been horseshit but assuming we're always going to challenge for promotion is unrealistic. Also I dont buy the we're one of the richest clubs malarky as the guys in charge are doing something unusual, they're running us as a business so won't risk the club by gambling on buying promotion.
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« Reply #288 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 00:04:10 » |
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Thinking about it, that King season was similar to last season.
We were dodgy until December then stepped up and went on a mad run after that....
Precisely, people are sugar coating last season. We were draw masters up until the end of October and then went on a couple of crazy runs that saw us through to the end of March. I make that 5 good months. Following that it went downhill a bit but luckily every other team in the chase were doing their best not to get promoted so we were still in the mix come the last game of the season.
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« Reply #289 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 00:22:52 » |
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Even if we did over-achieve last season, we did so by some margin or we're under-achieving now.
If we're under-achieving then perhaps Wilson can bring us up to a respectable level next season. Respectable, but not what is hoped from the board or fans. It's pathetic to blame the fans for wanting a play-off achieving team when that's all we hear from the board, manager and the players every fucking week. It's not like fans are throwing toys out of the pram for being 10th in the league when they want to be 6th or higher. We're stupidly close to being in the relegation zone last time I checked.
If it's true we over-achieved by some great margin last season then Wilson is unlikely to replicate that again, based on 5 out of 6 months of mediocre-to-shit football out this season with no improvement. Sure, he could probably improve things but the over-achieving argument would mean bring us up to mid-table consolidation levels.
I'm not buying this transitional season argument either. When Wilson arrived that was a transitional season. New manager, new approach etc. The next season was the one to kick on from that phase. Trouble is, he has thus far failed in two transfer windows and fucked around with last season's tried and tested formula for no apparent reason. He's brought in players he liked the look of with no idea how he's going to play them. The transitional season is Wilson's own making.
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« Reply #290 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 04:08:32 » |
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So Andy King taking us to the play off semi's in 03/04 is just airbrushed from history now?
Spot on, that 03/4 side would have pissed all over last seasons side.
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« Reply #291 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 04:54:21 » |
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So we're demanding to be play offs every year now?
I didn't publicly set the targets for this season last summer!! That was Fitton and Wilson - who both banged on about progression, the play offs and doing 'a millwall' we are 20th! That isn't progression, the play offs or doing 'a millwall' its being shit.
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« Reply #292 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 06:16:20 » |
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Fuck off did we OVERACHIEVE! We're one of the biggest clubs in this Division. We've certainly one fo the richer clubs. Being around the play-offs should be the minimum level of achievement. Shit some people are happy to accept mediocrity.
Forgetting the fact if we did overachieve or not, what makes you think we're one of the biggest clubs in this division ?
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« Reply #293 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:16:40 » |
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Trouble is, he has thus far failed in two transfer windows and fucked around with last season's tried and tested formula for no apparent reason.
Towards the end of last season people were bemoaning the "tried and tested formula" though. So many people on here were whinging that all we had was 4-4-2 and that teams had found us out so played 5 in the middle to dominate play.
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« Reply #294 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 09:19:23 » |
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Forgetting the fact if we did overachieve or not, what makes you think we're one of the biggest clubs in this division ?
Nasty case of big club syndrome, sounds terminal to me.
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« Reply #295 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:14:35 » |
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Its not wilsons fault he has had players sold from under him he has had little budget to work with, the dressing room is divided into 3 thats the problem they won't unite as 1. yes its his job to sort them out, with the money from charlie we need to have a big overhaul of the players and more or less start again, this season has been a waste.
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« Reply #296 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:23:27 » |
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Its not wilsons fault he has had players sold from under him he has had little budget to work with
Bollocks. People keep saying this, completely ignoring the wages we're paying out. Pericard, Douglas, Prutton, Austin all on big wages. The budget isn't just about transfer fees, people seem to have the idea that footballers play for the love of the game
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« Reply #297 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:26:40 » |
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+1 on the bollocks.
Wilson has spent £500k this season in transfer fees alone. How many clubs in League One have spent that much?
I haven't see figures, but I'd imagine we've one of the higher wage bills in the division. Would be interesting to see some stats on that, if someone's got the time to trawl through all the accounts of the clubs.
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« Reply #298 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 10:32:47 » |
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The players he's brought in haven't been bad players at all and are good for this level. Cuthbert, Sheehan, Ferry, Douglas, Lucas, Prutton and to a lesser extent Rose & Caddis. Just look at last season, these players didn't become shit overnight, it's just the balance in the side has changed and for whatever reason we just aren't doing it.
I trust Wilson to get us out of this and bring the right players in.
Although his record of signing strikers is pretty fucking shite to be honest (Hutchinson, Odejayi, Ball, Dossevi, Pericard.....)
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« Reply #299 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 12:05:51 » |
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I've got a feeling he might have struggled with forwards in the past - Would be interesting to find out.
At Brizzle Shitey he had Lita but didn't play him in the crucal game and then got the sack
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