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« Reply #255 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 18:44:03 »

Having been firmly in the no camp, i'm starting to waver.  Think Wilson can turn this around but not sure how long we can wait for that to happen, I'd probably give him until Exeter away - 6 games.
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« Reply #256 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 20:10:21 »

Look at the players Danny Wilson has had to sell this year and the transfer fee's received.

Weve got 7 days for THE BOARD, yes THE BOARD to loosen the purse strings to enable Danny Wilson to sign a striker. You think Danny Wilson doesnt want to sign the best striker he can? His job probably depends on it. If we don't sign a striker then we will be relegated no matter what manager is in charge.

Danny Wilson has never criticised the board despite now having to sell a lot of first team players. He has shielded them from criticism. But if a new manager comes in then the fans will expect funds to be made available to overhaul the entire squad. So I suggest the board should be looking very seriously about signing a striker.
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« Reply #257 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 20:30:26 »

Think Wilson can turn this around but not sure how long we can wait for that to happen.

Thing is that we've been waiting for him to turn it around since the opening day of the season. If he is capable of doing it then why hasn't he?

Don't see why loosening the purse strings is the answer. Wilson signed Pericard and Dossevi, 3rd time lucky maybe? He didn't do an better with the left backs either, signed two and is now playing someone out of position instead. Nor with the midfielders with Prutton and Ferry relegated to the bench.

I still don't think new players is the answer. The squad we've got is more than capable of the playoffs. Wilson isn't.
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« Reply #258 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 20:33:13 »

Thing is that we've been waiting for him to turn it around since the opening day of the season. If he is capable of doing it then why hasn't he?

Don't see why loosening the purse strings is the answer. Wilson signed Pericard and Dossevi, 3rd time lucky maybe? He didn't do an better with the left backs either, signed two and is now playing someone out of position instead. Nor with the midfielders with Prutton and Ferry relegated to the bench.

I still don't think new players is the answer. The squad we've got is more than capable of the playoffs. Wilson isn't.

Was 8 months back Hmmm
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« Reply #259 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 20:34:19 »

The squad we've got is more than capable of the playoffs. Wilson isn't.

There is more evidence to make a case of the opposite.
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« Reply #260 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 20:39:01 »

Even if no one meets the boards valuation of Charlie, which at the moment is entirely possible and he has to stay,  we still need a striker and cb
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« Reply #261 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 20:40:07 »

Was 8 months back Hmmm

You still going to be saying that when we get relegated?

There is more evidence to make a case of the opposite.

Ferry, McGovern, Cuthbert, Amankwaah, Lucas and Douglas have all been poor this season compared to last whilst other players are capable of more than we've seen from them this season. When so man players play so badly it's not just a drop in form, something else is going wrong and for me that is Wilson.
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« Reply #262 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 20:45:13 »

I think the line up yesterday was a fair reflection of Wilson's recent signings - apart from Dossevi none of them in the starting XI.
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« Reply #263 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 20:51:37 »

Couldnt disagree more Johnny. The team means a complete first 11.

Of our current players this season I would say that Austin, Douglas, McGovern and Cuthbert have been players at a top end of league 1 standard. You need 8 or 9 players at that standard, then you can carry 2 or 3 average players.

You cant carry 7 average League 1 players and expect to be right up there?

Like I said I think you couldnt be more wrong. Par for this team is about 16th, and we could still do that comfortably.
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« Reply #264 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 21:00:46 »

Couldnt disagree more Johnny. The team means a complete first 11.

Of our current players this season I would say that Austin, Douglas, McGovern and Cuthbert have been players at a top end of league 1 standard. You need 8 or 9 players at that standard, then you can carry 2 or 3 average players.

Hang on. You just said Wilson should be given funds to strengthen the team, yet now you're saying that his last seven signings (Ritchie, Frampton, Prutton, Ferry, Caddis, Dossevi, Pericard) aren't good enough?

And before you say Wilson needs money to buy decent players, the four you listed as being good enough cost under £200k combined and Ritchie, Ferry and Caddis cost £500k combined. Wilson has spent more than most managers at this level and we've nothing to show for it.
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« Reply #265 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 21:04:04 »

You still going to be saying that when we get relegated?

Ferry, McGovern, Cuthbert, Amankwaah, Lucas and Douglas have all been poor this season compared to last whilst other players are capable of more than we've seen from them this season. When so man players play so badly it's not just a drop in form, something else is going wrong and for me that is Wilson.


Yep.....but will add a few months Wink

Some of the football last season was brilliant.............been poor this season but i would like to see him stay.....sacking is the easy way out...........fact is he will be hear at the season's end..........get used to it.
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« Reply #266 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 21:12:02 »

Like I said I think you couldnt be more wrong. Par for this team is about 16th, and we could still do that comfortably.

So, Wilson takes a team that finished 5th - loses a few players and signs some players, then he takes that team and new set of players to 20th (or if we are being generous we'll go with your idea they are 16th place player) and the idea after he's taken us back 11 places with poor signings is to give him more money to sign more (poor?) players.

Going from 5th to 20th in 8 months is piss poor.

I'm with Johnny in so much that I think the team we have are alot better than the position suggests. No where near play off quality but better than 16th. The problem is just as much tactics, subtitutions, poor selections and motivation as it is players - all things that Wilson should be sorting out he hasnt.

If he was capable of sorting this mess out he would have done it by now, he cant.
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« Reply #267 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 21:18:42 »

Hang on. You just said Wilson should be given funds to strengthen the team, yet now you're saying that his last seven signings (Ritchie, Frampton, Prutton, Ferry, Caddis, Dossevi, Pericard) aren't good enough?

And before you say Wilson needs money to buy decent players, the four you listed as being good enough cost under £200k combined and Ritchie, Ferry and Caddis cost £500k combined. Wilson has spent more than most managers at this level and we've nothing to show for it.

I said he needs funds for a striker in order for us to stay up.

Of those signings I would say that Prutton and Pericard have been big mistakes that Danny Wilson must carry the can for. They are both only heading in 1 direction.

All the others are good enough to keep up in League 1. Ritchie, Ferry and Caddis have more to give and should be better next season. Although I do worry about Caddis, he still seems to be in reserve team mode. But weve spent money on promising younger players who will improve.

But its all about the team. If we let go of Austin we are pittifully short up front. You could have 9 great midfielders, defenders and a goalkeeper, but if youve got no strikers then you'll still be in trouble. This season the quality in our first 11 has been very patchy.
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« Reply #268 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 21:25:58 »

So, Wilson takes a team that finished 5th - loses a few players and signs some players, then he takes that team and new set of players to 20th (or if we are being generous we'll go with your idea they are 16th place player) and the idea after he's taken us back 11 places with poor signings is to give him more money to sign more (poor?) players.

Going from 5th to 20th in 8 months is piss poor.

I'm with Johnny in so much that I think the team we have are alot better than the position suggests. No where near play off quality but better than 16th. The problem is just as much tactics, subtitutions, poor selections and motivation as it is players - all things that Wilson should be sorting out he hasnt.

If he was capable of sorting this mess out he would have done it by now, he cant.

It always was a patchy squad. Some quality, some crap. You need a bit more consistancy across the first 11, and Ive said so all season.

16th or 7th doesnt really matter this season. Staying up is all that matters now. Then in the summer we'll just have to have faith that Danny Wilson can assemble a squad as he did in the summer of 2009.
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« Reply #269 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 21:29:57 »

You're right that 7th or 16th dont matter now, both positions are complete and utter failure and a huge backwards step.
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