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« Reply #150 on: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 19:46:45 » |
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So that represents that over two million left unspent from Cox,Greer and Morrison....i thaught we were one of the best off clubs in the country these days.....£700,000 isnt alot on 4/5 players is it. Not forgeting the wages we freed up on these players....Fitton has been frugal and rightly so,but dont pretend that Wilson has spent lots of dosh....because he hasn't.
He's had a load more money than any manager since the Scouse fuck.
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« Reply #151 on: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 19:47:26 » |
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He's had a load more money than any manager since the Scouse fuck.
700k is a lot to buy a decent set of players at this level as well.
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« Reply #152 on: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 19:47:31 » |
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So that represents that over two million left unspent from Cox,Greer and Morrison....i thaught we were one of the best off clubs in the country these days.....£700,000 isnt alot on 4/5 players is it. Not forgeting the wages we freed up on these players....Fitton has been frugal and rightly so,but dont pretend that Wilson has spent lots of dosh....because he hasn't.
Considering most teams in our league probably have an average player valuation of £50-70K, i'd say that £700k is a lot of money for 4-5 players.
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« Reply #153 on: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 19:55:18 » |
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A key part of the Manager's role I would have thought, is to get them committed and to show passion.
Disagree on the commited part. I think with the bigger wages of players now comes bigger responsibility. They are all grown men and they should go out and make sure they are putting in a proper commited performance. Passion, yes I think the manager has a big part to play getting that little bit extra.
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« Reply #154 on: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 19:59:47 » |
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50/70.....all our players are worth more than that....an average player in this league will cost you....well probably what we paid for Ritchie....and yes he was fucking average yesterday for sure. For the players we got for that £700,000 we paid about the going rate...Fitton himself has said he wont pay over for players,so why do you think he has spent over. You can blame Wilson for lots of things if you wish...but overspending isn't one of them in my view Santas.
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« Reply #155 on: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 20:02:51 » |
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They are all grown men and they should go out and make sure they are putting in a proper commited performance.
I agree they should but that doesn't mean they do sadly.
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« Reply #156 on: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 20:04:50 » |
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I agree they should but that doesn't mean they do sadly.
Dont let them get a good manager the sack then.
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« Reply #157 on: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 20:14:54 » |
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I'd suggest our net transfer spending is massively in our favour, which hasn't happened since the days of Hoddle and before.
That logic suggests we've sold better players than purchased, at least based on their actual ability at the time of sale/purchase. Looking at Wilson's purchases with cash upfront, most will probably be sold at a profit unless they run their contracts down - Cuthbert, Caddis, Ferry, Austin & Ritchie. The problem is the free transfers don't seem to be working out - the financial gamble pays off, but the performance of the team declines. Prutton - unlikely to command a fee based on the seaso so far, Rose, Pericard, Dossevi and Lucas will all be the same - with nobody wanting to pay for them we'd just lose them at the end of their contracts or release them (based on this season). Douglas is the only one worth money.
So, I think Wilson has purchased well but been much more patchy in picking up the freebies.
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« Reply #158 on: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 20:21:59 » |
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When malpas went fitton said lots of good coaches about but he wanted one that was a motivator. I dont see any motivation from Danny really. Personally i think division one is crap. I wasnt impressed with huddersfiled when we beat them or southampton. On the day they were nothing special. Fitton talks about progress. Well we are falling like a stone at present. I find it funny that Danny says he can get us out of this shit as we were in the same shit when he came. A but wasnt the previous manager sacked because we were in this trouble. This time danny you put us there.
Last season the team picked itself. This season he brought in players for positions we all ready had filled. And left other positions waiting. His transfer dealings are at best 50/50 in good and bad ones. Perricard and Dossevi arent up to it. Prutton has been a massive disapointment. A guy with experiance who should be looking to drive the team forward who vanishes in many games. If it wasnt for him playing with his hair you wouldnt know he was out there.
Fans said at wembley we got beat up on the pitch. Even danny says it after games now. So why didnt he do something about it. We are back to having snow white and the 10 dwarfs again.
Am a season ticket holder, i dont boo. I will continue to go to games. I just dont like watching the town play with a lack of desire to want to win. I like to see teams with balance and commitment. Im not seeing it, and for me i dont care what happend last year. What happened last year wont keep us up this year. Hope wilson goes asap for me.
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« Reply #159 on: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 20:30:34 » |
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I don't think anyone can really make a comment on whether he can motivate players or not. How would we know? I don't even think motivation is a problem, it seems much more like technical problems to me. Poor defending, based on poor choices or lack of concentration. Poor runs being made or poor balls played. These aren't motivation issues, they are the symptoms of a young team lacking in leaders on the pitch or the confidence to do what they do on the good days in every situation. They also suggest a team that has been chopped and changed regularly, so people are less confident in each other. Wilson must take some of the blame for that - he needs to insist on buying a couple of people in with experience and who play consistently at a level, even if that means players with less potential. Players like Prutton and McGovern should also be providing more. Both have ability but are not acting as role models to the younger players.
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« Reply #160 on: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 20:41:06 » |
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No, Wilson should not be sacked.
We will just avoid relegation this year.
Apologies if anyone has already mentioned this, but this season seems uncannily similar to the one 10 years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if we go into the final couple of matches with other teams likely to relegate us, but we have the odd miracle (like Invincible's goal v Peterborough) and we stay up by the skin of our teeth.
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« Reply #161 on: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 21:11:59 » |
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I think the time is now right for Wilson to step down , he has not really done anything he should be able to motivate the players by dropping them if there attitude aint right.
We have no decent forwards apart from Austin who is just waiting to move on, Dossevi runs but thats about it and well need i say anything about pericard !!!!!! how he ever became a pro only knows.
We are now selling our best defender this season, we have no creative midfielders prutton and douglas do the same job and just leave a massive hole where we should be attacking.
Give the bloke from Torquay the job i say we need to take a gamble on someone who is doing a good job lower down.
Otherwise we will just appoint someone else who has been sacked from elsewhere for doing a s**t job.
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« Reply #162 on: Monday, January 17, 2011, 10:23:20 » |
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I did boo at the end on Saturday but didnt call for Wilsons head......BUT....he is under the cosh now for sure.....many more like Saturday and he will be gone.
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« Reply #163 on: Monday, January 17, 2011, 16:28:32 » |
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My tuppence worth is it would be wrong to sack Wilson at this stage in the season.
I was aghast when Wilson’s name was linked to the job and when he was appointed I thought the club had dropped a bollock the size of Buster Gonad’s equipment. On reflection he’s converted me, not quite on the merits of the Human Centipede as an erotic moving piece (he’s working on it) but as a manager he’s astute and I know I’ll be crucified for this but he actually appears to be a class above this league. When I say that the style of football he plays is more suited to the Championship and with a narrowing gap between the two divisions I do think had we played the same way as we have done this season (in certain games not where we were just plain old shit) in the Championship we would have got a result. What we are missing is all to clear, a couple of experienced battering rams at the front and back that can play dirty and lead the younger elements in the squad.
Anyway, inexperienced young squad, too much tinkering, low confidence and an inability to play dirty are why we are staring down the barrels of a relegation fight. We are two players off a different side and regardless of who the manager is to quote Steve Coppell, old scrotum face himself Ferguson would struggle to get the current squad in the playoffs.
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« Reply #164 on: Monday, January 17, 2011, 16:41:57 » |
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As far as I can tell, our style of play at the moment is to play shit and roll over and die at the first sign of a contest. I'm not quite sure how this converts to being a Championship side in the making, but each to their own.
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