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« Reply #90 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 22:31:22 »

I would love to see the stats on players for the season.

Passes made etc etc.

Might open up some idiots eyes.

3 goals in the lge is the stat that is worrying.
Pericard should be playing at a higher level,the Pericard we have seen this season so far shows the reason he isn't.
The stick he is getting is getting seriously worrying now...getting to the stage where fans are close to fighting each other in there views.
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« Reply #91 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 22:36:38 »

I was in the Arks yesterday....was he pushed for a pen?
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« Reply #92 on: Monday, December 6, 2010, 00:08:36 »

3 goals in the lge is the stat that is worrying.
Pericard should be playing at a higher level,the Pericard we have seen this season so far shows the reason he isn't.
The stick he is getting is getting seriously worrying now...getting to the stage where fans are close to fighting each other in there views.

This is the point I was trying to make in my earlier post in this thread Leefer.  Around me in the Arkells stand, he is not at all popular and game by game the number of people getting on his back is increasing.   Even if he scored in the next 3 games, I don't think the majority of those people's opinions would change.  He'd still be jeered everytime he fluffed a pass or didn't jump for a header.  I know there are a fair few on here defending him, but as somebody mentioned they do seem to be slightly in the minority now.  I noticed Charlie losing his rag with him a few times yesterday and a few of the other players as well.  The crowd reaction no doubt inflamed that and if as it appears large sections of the supporters are turning against him so badly, I can't see he has a future here tbh?
I noticed Charlie shout at him a number of times yesterday and he wasn't aloneNot only is it unpleasant for him to hear, but it could
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« Reply #93 on: Monday, December 6, 2010, 00:09:12 »

I was in the Arks yesterday....was he pushed for a pen?

I thought he was.
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« Reply #94 on: Monday, December 6, 2010, 10:54:19 »

getting to the stage where fans are close to fighting each other in there views.

i thought there was going to be one in the D R.
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« Reply #95 on: Monday, December 6, 2010, 11:01:35 »

i thought there was going to be one in the D R.

There was a couple of people a few rows in front of me in the DR who seemed to have differing opinions.
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« Reply #96 on: Monday, December 6, 2010, 11:06:43 »

Being shit isn't a reason to boo someone...but being a lazy cunt who doesn't look interested half the time is!

I'll never boo a player who's having a stinker or I think is shit if he puts the effort in, but vincent pericard simply doesn't care. He never puts his head in if he thinks he might get hurt and sometimes can barely be bothered to run or challenge for the ball. Dossevi put more effort in during the first few minutes he was on the pitch than pericard did all game.

The guy obviously has some sort of talent, or he wouldn't have been at juventus in his youth, but there's a reason he's at swindon now and its because he's a lazy bastard. When you're contributing to his wages everyweek and you see him pussy out of a challenge you've got every right to be angry and boo him off.

Wearing the red of Swindon isn't simply enough to make me have some crazy man crush on him. It's pretty simple, me paying money + no effort from player= me letting player know what i think of you. It doesn't make me a cunt or clueless, it just makes me not completely blinded by the fact we have someone in the team who clearly couldn't give a shit.


and for the record I thought Pericard was less shit than normal Saturday, but still shit.
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« Reply #97 on: Monday, December 6, 2010, 11:08:15 »

In hindsight we would never of signed him.....we dont have that.

I do reckon hes finished here and it hurts me to say it as i wanted him to succeed.
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« Reply #98 on: Monday, December 6, 2010, 11:17:22 »

I think a minority of people are determined to see Pericards career at Swindon end in failure. Sad.

I think the problem is with the band of pericard lovers who seem ready to bow at his feet when he can't be arsed do the simpliest of things, people seem more determined to get their views across.
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« Reply #99 on: Monday, December 6, 2010, 11:19:52 »

I think all of our players should rush around like headless chickens, and go for balls they aren't going to win. Who the fuck needs shape, or jobs on the pitch anyway. It's the english way of playing, and it's why we're such a global footballing superpower
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« Reply #100 on: Monday, December 6, 2010, 11:26:38 »

Absolutely rediculous post. It's not hard to see the difference between a player who's putting absolutely no effort in and a player who's 'keeping shape' or 'doing another job'.

People use the argument he holds the ball up and causes defenders problems, he does none of this! These are excuses. He falls to the floor like a sack of shit at the slightest touch despite being the biggest guy on the pitch. I've seen no evidence he causes defenders problems....If anything its an easy day at the office.
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« Reply #101 on: Monday, December 6, 2010, 11:28:14 »

I think all of our players should rush around like headless chickens, and go for balls they aren't going to win. Who the fuck needs shape, or jobs on the pitch anyway. It's the english way of playing, and it's why we're such a global footballing superpower

No one's saying that are they?

As a target man, it helps that you challenge for an aerial ball. I don't want to see him tearing about, but breaking into a sweat. challenging the CBs and making some kind of effort to get in the box when the ball's wide would be nice.

Round and round we go

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« Reply #102 on: Monday, December 6, 2010, 11:29:18 »

Damn you dave, you beat me to it Dave, although I was going to be less subtle.  I take back my comment about no idiots on here, welcome Mr Collins.

Look, nobody is saying the guy is a world beater, and I'm not even saying I think he deserves a starting slot - in my ideal team a player like him wouldn't get in.  However, suggesting he deserves booing for doing a job he has been asked to do and does relatively effectively is madness.  Dossevi may run around a fair bit, but he doesn't occupy defenders.  He goes running back into midfield and with Austin I fear the two would not work for a full 90 ins as well as Peri does with Austin.  Ideally you'd have Drogba playing next to Austin, but based on our current squad, Peri offers the best foil.

Hesky is being used by some, in a negative way, but Owen used him to his advantage in games as have others.  Beardsley is a more skillfull version, Lineker scored the goals but Beardsley didn't, it was a partnership.  Very few people would say Beardsley was shit because his goals to game ratio wasn't very good, but because he was mroe creative on the ball people are happy.  Pericard has been brought here to do a specific job, that's obvious, just because people don't get it they begin rabid ranting.

In summary, he's a bit of lump and I wouldn't want him if the club were nuts and decided to let fans vote on team selection and transfers.  I do however understand what he is doing, and he is, whether you like or not, doing that job sufficiently well for us to be scoring a lot of goals.  Our goals to game ratio is better than last year, so Paynter, thus far, has not been missed even if the player replacing him is not as good because he's doing a different role and Charlie is looking better because of it as are midfielders looking more likely to score.
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« Reply #103 on: Monday, December 6, 2010, 11:32:11 »

I'm sorry Pericards job is to not challenge for headers? not get in the box when the balls wide? not break a sweat? not be a handful for defenders? not score goals? and generally be of no use to the team whatsoever.

Yes, sorry, my apologies for being the idiot.

and I''m not saying Dossevi is the best thing since sliced bread, at no point have I said this
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« Reply #104 on: Monday, December 6, 2010, 11:34:02 »

If you're going to tell me pericard is not a handfull for defenders, I'm going to suggest you get down to the opticians.
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