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« Reply #60 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 08:33:45 » |
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I was seriously astonished by the cheering of substitution of Pericard.
First off I thought he had a good first half he was holding the ball up and laying it off pretty well. He's never going to be a runner and chaser of the ball, don't expect that of him.
Second, seriously no point in getting on the back of one of your own. It won't make him a better player.
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« Reply #61 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 09:32:57 » |
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havent read all posts but it would appear there is a split opinion on him. Mate of mine read a book by a stoke fan and he wrote that he has never seen a centre forward stand still so much-that is what gets my back up most about him closely followed by the fact that he wins fuck all in the air.he is frustrating and I would sooner see Dossevi in the starting line up-at least he is 'lee peacock-esque' in his running, which I seem to remember was what town fans liked most about Peacock.
one thing I will say is I'd be interested looking at peoples opinion of him when charlie boy goes. I'm guessing that 'holding the ball up' will no longer be good enough for most. Did anyone see his reaction at Crawley when Austin scored?
he has had more injuries than goals and for what he must be getting paid (and yes that does matter) he aint earning his crust in my opinion.
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« Reply #62 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 11:07:15 » |
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I'm sure if other stands chipped in with the odd chant then they'd have done similar. Thought it was a disgrace but the majority of the town end did not join in
Was pretty loud from where I was stood.
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« Reply #63 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 11:13:51 » |
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I think from behind the goal you do notice the workrate of strikers more.
However I do think the response of the Town End was a disgrace yesterday. I think a minority of people are determined to see Pericards career at Swindon end in failure. Sad.
Ive heard that Billy Paynter is slagging off Swindon fans left right and centre up in Leeds. Looks like another player is going to leave with a negative opinion of our support.
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« Reply #64 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 11:26:17 » |
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I too have returned to Swindon after being 'away' for a while and following the Pericard debate. The Sheff Wed game was my first for a while. All I will say is that the player is splitting the fans at a time when we all need to be behind the team; that is not good.
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« Reply #65 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 11:32:41 » |
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I don't know what game some of you were watching yesterday because I thought (bar the 10 mins before he came off) Pericard was very good. Held the ball up well and didn't really do a lot wrong. He was always finding our players until that misplaced pass to Austin. He's deffo the new Paynter (before he shone), David Duke etc. He's now the one that everyone picks on even if he plays well. I thought the cheering when he was subbed off was a disgrace. He had a good game and a bad 10 mins. What annoys me is that IMO Dossevi came on and did naff all yet people sing his praises because he ran around a bit? I know that we like our players to show some effort etc but if they are doing the job that's required of them then what's the problem?
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« Reply #66 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 11:35:15 » |
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ooops did i say that?
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« Reply #67 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 11:58:33 » |
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Wouldn't surprise if Billy is slagging the Town fans off. I don't blame him.
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« Reply #68 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 12:11:39 » |
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I will never boo a player wearing the famous shirt, save that for the lowlifes.
However Vince was dogshit yesterday. The frustration for me is his lack of workrate or effort. Good point about being behind the goal you probably spot that more as its in your line of vision constantly for the second half, also doesn't help that he's playing alongside charlie austin who clearly loves every minute of being a professional footballer and runs himself into the ground every single game. Contrasting where they've come from, juventus vs a building site and you begin to see the difference in approach to the game.
I only notice what vince brings to the game when he's not playing, because we do look worse without him in my opinion, no one to hold the ball up. BUT when he is playing like he did yesterday, traipsing around the edge of the box, half heartedly jumping for the odd aimless hoof and just looking like he cannot give a shit. It's unnacceptable, and an insult to the shirt.
The only thing I ask of a Swindon Town player is they put a shift in. Skills, ability, talent will always be there throughout the team in patches but this is div 3, put a fucking shift in and you can't go far wrong.
Pericard is not helping himself and I get the impression he's a bit of a billy big bollocks who isn't about to change now. I think he'll be gone in January if not the end of the season. We need someone up there with austin to win the ball, hold it up, flick it on and give the opposition centre backs something to think about, problem is V-Unit might do that one in four games, and when he does do it there isn't a great deal of difference in his game to when he doesn't do it, so it kind of goes unnoticed anyway.
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« Reply #69 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 12:17:11 » |
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I actually thought he was okay in the first half, but he gets to a certain point in the game and seems to completely lose interest. At this point Wilson should be bringing him off, not leaving him on for a further 25 minutes while a large proportion of the crowd get on his back. I have to be honest, I’m not his biggest fan, I’ve really tried to come round to the Pro Pericard way of thinking, but I can’t. He’s too lazy and doesn’t give enough to the team imo. However, I don’t agree with the cheering and booing him off when he was substituted, it’s not nice to hear that happening to one of your own players and as Crystall Tips mentioned above it's not going to make him a better player. Unfortunately there does seem to be a significant proportion of the supporters who really dislike him now and after this amount of time it's unlikely that will change unless something dramatically changes in the way he plays. Personally, I think we need to be looking to replace him in the January transfer window and offload him for his own good? What annoys me is that IMO Dossevi came on and did naff all yet people sing his praises because he ran around a bit? Maybe I'm alone here, but more often than not Dossevi seems to run around and do naff all?
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« Reply #70 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 12:18:21 » |
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TBF, dossevi is freakishly good at being caught offside
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« Reply #71 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 12:19:53 » |
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Ive heard that Billy Paynter is slagging off Swindon fans left right and centre up in Leeds. Looks like another player is going to leave with a negative opinion of our support.
Christ, Paynter should expect 100% worse from the Leeds supporters if he underperforms. They'll allow you one bad game before getting on your back!
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« Reply #72 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 12:29:05 » |
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Maybe I'm alone here, but more often than not Dossevi seems to run around and do naff all?
I do think Dossevi has qualities. They were not on show yesterday though but i'm not going to say he was shite because he didn't have much time to get into the game. He ran around and looked up for it which is what we all like. My main point was that he was no better if not worse than Pericard and yet he gets a lot more praise because he did more running. Do you think they'd have cheered Dossevi if he went off? Doubt it.
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« Reply #73 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 12:33:38 » |
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All those booing Pericard were total fucktards. He held the ball up well, and brought others into the game. Yes, he should win more headers, and on occasion his choice of pass wasn't good, but no-one is perfect. One incident about 5 mins in, Pericard misplaces a pass and get abuse from some in the DRS (and probably elsewhere too), but less than a minute later Douglas misplaces a pass and no-one says a word. Clearly I'm not advocating booing Douglas!
Also, I notice earlier in the thread jfw mentioned someone slagging of Smith...even after that fantastic save when he was extremely quick off his line in the first half? Crazy.
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« Reply #74 on: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 12:40:49 » |
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Yes its a good point, I remember dougie passing directly to one of theirs and complete silence from the town end. Thing is dougie always puts in 90minutes effort. It isn't about the skill level for me, it's about the effort level.
Pericard isn't a danny wilson player for me, but I understand why he signed him, we play a big man little man combo the old classic, the problem is the big man needs to make a fcuking effort and let the centre backs know he's there.
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