Man Utd Vs Spurs

[Arriba]

oh dear.

[Nemo]

Watched in MOTD. Tremendous farce.

[Saxondale]

Tremendous farce in the favour of man united.  Oh im so surprised. 

[DV]

Gomes shouldnt have taken the ball so far forward for the 'free kick' if he'd placed it near where the handball actually was it wouldnt have looked like he was 'playing on'

[LucienSanchez]

What is the point of assistants if they are constantly overruled? And also, why was Ferdinand allowed to be party to their discussions but everyone else made to vamoosh?

[chalkies_shorts]

What is the point of assistants if they are constantly overruled? And also, why was Ferdinand allowed to be party to their discussions but everyone else made to vamoosh?

Because he's England captain and the same rules don't apply to him Rooney, Terry, Lampard or Gerrard. The referee and lino completely lost the plot and what a surprise in Utd's favour.

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

Have to say that having now seen it all I can't help but think the whole thing was a complete farce. For a start it was never a penalty so why on earth Nani decided to try and pick the ball up I will never know. Gomes should have just kicked it out from his hands having played the advantage but he didn't.....that was part 1 of the problem. This is where the confusion comes in....the ref reckons he was playing advantage but surely Nani should be booked for the handball?....I guess he could have been booked when the ball next went out of play but he wasn't.

The assistant didn't help matters....he did not flag until Nani decided to shoot. Surely if he thought it was handball he'd have flagged as soon as Nani attempted to pick it up?....and lastly why on earth the ref decided it should stand is beyond me. He should have at least gone with the linos decision....of course when you have twats like Rio in your face telling you it's a goal at Old Trafford then you're going to cave in and agree with him....shocking officiating from start to finish to be honest.

[Batch]

Play to whistle - its simple.

The free kick should have been given, and in the lino's defence he flagged that fact after the goal went in. Presumably he thought the ref missed it. Clattenburg overruled it and said he played on.

[RobertT]

I can see the issue with Gomes assuming it was a free kick, but as soon as it becomes clear that no advantage has been gained by Spurs, the ref should blow up for the intial free kick anyway.  The linesman should grow a set of bollocks because you can hardly pretend the hand ball hadn't occurred.  No advantage, so even though no intial free kcik is given, it should be as soon as Nani touched it.

[Nemo]

And even if the goal stands, if the ref was playing advantage, Nani should be booked for deliberate handball.

[Ardiles]

What is the point of assistants if they are constantly overruled? And also, why was Ferdinand allowed to be party to their discussions but everyone else made to vamoosh?

Whenever I see a player barking orders at the ref and his staff like that, I start to daydream that the ref will grow some balls, look the player in the eye, show him the yellow card and tell him 'On your way, son'.  If he doesn't get the hint, the card changes colour to red.

I know it's a well used cliché, but if only the interactions between players and the ref were more like they are in rugby union, we'd all be a lot happier.  Rugby referees don't take any nonsense from players, and players know not to give any.

[Div]

What is the point of assistants if they are constantly overruled? And also, why was Ferdinand allowed to be party to their discussions but everyone else made to vamoosh?

Because the referee is the one in charge, and as the name says, they are there to assist only. Ultimately it's the referees decision. And we have no idea what he flagged, they might have those mics on but they aren't good for a good chin-wag. Maybe he's flagged to check that the referee knows what's gone on - it's better to be safe than sorry. Not seen it yet though.

I can see the issue with Gomes assuming it was a free kick, but as soon as it becomes clear that no advantage has been gained by Spurs, the ref should blow up for the intial free kick anyway.  The linesman should grow a set of bollocks because you can hardly pretend the hand ball hadn't occurred.  No advantage, so even though no intial free kcik is given, it should be as soon as Nani touched it.

The advantage would be Gomes having it in his hand - where under no pressure he can clear the ball, start a counter etc etc. What he does with it doesn't count towards advantage as soon as he has it in his hands. He's let the ball go out of controllable distance from him meaning he's lost possession on his own - what nani does then is fair-play (just not spirited).  Play can only be brought back through lack of advantage if the ball runs into a rubbish area, there is obviously no advantage to be had, or the team being rewarded the free-kick have lost the ball through pressure/tackle by the opposition in a short time after the foul has been commited.

If gomes kicked the ball straight out for a throw, would we all be saying 'free kick no advantage' or 'throw in, Gomes fucked up himself'.

Not seen it though, i'm just commenting on law!

[THE FLASH]

I bet the Beetroot faced jock had a go at the ref after.... or probably let it go.....

I wonder if he would of given the same thing to Spurs??

Remember the ball behind the line??

I wish they wouldnt do this!  I dont need anymore reasons to hate united and the 'followers'.

[thedarkprince]

Play to whistle - its simple.

The free kick should have been given, and in the lino's defence he flagged that fact after the goal went in. Presumably he thought the ref missed it. Clattenburg overruled it and said he played on.

I thought the lino only raised his flag when Gomes ran towards him like a lunatic?

Any one spot Scholes shoving Clattenburg when he didn't give the penalty?

[Batch]

I thought the lino only raised his flag when Gomes ran towards him like a lunatic?

Yes he did, I didn't word it well.  Point is he raised his flag because in my opinion he wanted to make sure the ref had seen the handball.

He should have raised it straight away of course, forcing Clattenburg to make it obvious he was playing on.