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Kinky Tom
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« Reply #30 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 12:36:33 »

I don't mind constuctive critisism at all but I see little demonstration of this.
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« Reply #31 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 12:37:48 »

I'm not moaning i'm 'observing'  Wink
Ah, OK. My apologies. Carry on Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 12:47:10 »

Fuck off with 'that is your opinion' yes it fucking is.  Are you saying you're a better fan because you criticise the team more than I do?  Balls!

I'm quite capable of criticising the team thank-you very much but but until I've got a more reasoned point than what the usual guff is on here (see my posts in the match thread) I don't see the need - it's counter productive.

Too much is emotive on here.
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« Reply #33 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 12:47:49 »

Oh post removed above my last post...
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« Reply #34 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 12:50:30 »


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Fuck off with 'that is your opinion' yes it fucking is.  Are you saying you're a better fan because you criticise the team more than I do?  Balls!

I'm quite capable of criticising the team thank-you very much but but until I've got a more reasoned point than what the usual guff is on here (see my posts in the match thread) I don't see the need - it's counter productive.

Too much is emotive on here.

No you've got it completely wrong, I'm saying fans should be able to identify weaknesses and not be criticised for it
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« Reply #35 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 12:52:25 »

Everybody should be able to criticise everybody's opinions. That's the point of debate/discussion/arguments/whatever.

Not all opinions are equal and if the only way you can back it up is with "boo hoo but it's just my opinion cry baby not fair" then maybe it's not a particularly well informed opinion in the first place.
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« Reply #36 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 13:15:20 »


No you've got it completely wrong, I'm saying fans should be able to identify weaknesses and not be criticised for it

No, I'm afraid I haven't...

I don't mind constuctive criticism at all but I see little demonstration of this.

That's your opinion

That's what i was replying to - I have seen little constructive criticism and that is what I don't like, just mindless toys out of the pram scenarios.

I welcome consructive criticism, that's more than ok
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« Reply #37 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 13:42:12 »

I understand that, but it's all about whether you believe Wilson can do that bit of business. I don't think we're a million miles away from where we need to be, nor do I think our squad is significantly weaker than last season. Sure, we lost 2 key players, but the players Wilson has brought in so far, Prutton, Rose, Ball and Ritchie, are starting to show what they're capable of.

At the beginning of the season everyone wanted a new, experienced CB, then Morrison came in and we were ok apart from a backup. Now everyone wants a new CB playing.

Pericard was apparently shit at the start of the season, he covered for Charlie quite well, got important goals and people began to re-think. Now, he's shit again?

Too many people on here only see in monochrome.



I dont think we are a million miles away either, but the spine of the team is lacking. I'd call it 3 key players from last season. Ward has been amply replaced by Ritchie this month! Its give or take how long Ritchie will be here for. I hope its like 5 years or something! you never know with Portsmouth

...and I release what you have said is generalized to the forum. I've never once changed my stance on the players missing
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« Reply #38 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 14:05:14 »


We're one player away from being as good or better than last season - replace Paynter with a goal scorer = frightening attack.  Can't do that, ok, replace Greer with an experienced CB, preferably with a little bit of pace = decent defense.  (disclaimer - so long as we can keep hold of Ritchie...)

If we can get both then we easily have one of the best six teams in division.


This is correct and what a number of people (myself included) have been saying since the start of the season.  Issue being, we're now 12 games in and don't appear to be any nearer finding adequate replacements.  I think this is what a lot of supporters are unhappy about.

However, the current formation involving Ritchie and Ball seems to be working well and may possibly have alleviated the need for a direct replacement for Paynter (other than for cover purposes). 

It is fairly clear though that we still require an experienced defender.  As strong as Sean Morrison has been in some games, he has been as weak and naiviety has shown in others.  At 19 years old it’s perhaps too much of an ask for him to play week in and week in out and be consistently good?  Also, we have no real cover if either Cuthbert or Morrison get injured, as LJF is still struggling.
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« Reply #39 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 14:32:08 »

Peterborough have scored 21 goals in 6 home games this season and won 5 of those. If we had got a point there it would have been a cracking result.

It sounded like we gave it a good go to win as well, something which we've all wanted for a while (if we go behind we come back to win). Sometimes it doesn't come off, yesterday and the Plymouth game are examples.

The difference this season for me is the form of individual players - they're not consistent enough. Wilson was praised last season for getting the best out of the players, I'm sure if anyone knows how to get the boys playing consistently it's him.
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« Reply #40 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 14:42:07 »

It is what i and many others have been saying all along.

If we had secured adequate replacements for Paynter, Greer and Ward i am sure we would be much higher up the table.

Believe that unless we do this, the best we can hope for is mid table this year.
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« Reply #41 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 14:46:53 »

Thing is Bart, it may be time for those people to move on. We aren't getting those players back, moaning about it is not going to help, in fact it just makes you look like a dick head.
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« Reply #42 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 14:47:09 »

It is what i and many others have been saying all along.

If we had secured adequate replacements for Paynter, Greer and Ward i am sure we would be much higher up the table.

Believe that unless we do this, the best we can hope for is mid table this year.

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 We might have a cup run in the JPT, would that be a good thing Bart?
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« Reply #43 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 14:50:32 »

Reg yeah a good run in the JPT would be great.

Si- aint moaning, just stating facts. We have not adequately replaced last years departures- agree we need to  move on now- but unless we bring in adequate replacements i cannot see us emulating anything close to last seasons finish.   
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« Reply #44 on: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 14:53:25 »

It is what i and many others have been saying all along.

If we had secured adequate replacements for Paynter, Greer and Ward i am sure we would be much higher up the table.

Believe that unless we do this, the best we can hope for is mid table this year.

The problem is that there isnt a bucket load of players like that available that can just go out and get.  Its bloody hard for managers to bring in players they are certain will improve the team.

In order to find a gem of player you will proper have to suffer a few duds.
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