Paranormal Activity

[Simon Pieman]

So prior to gravity being discovered and subsequently measured, it didn't actually exist?

Has anyone watched those Derren Brown videos yet? They're quite entertaining.

[BANGKOK RED]

So prior to gravity being discovered and subsequently measured, it didn't actually exist?

Has anyone watched those Derren Brown videos yet? They're quite entertaining.

I'm watching one now, in between allowing TT to get under my skin.

[BANGKOK RED]

If you can show me physical proof for another dimension then I will agree that it exists. You can't, so therefore it is equivalent to not existing. It's a pointless argument.

I can come up with as many sci-fi scenarios as the next bloke for how the universe (or parallel universes or string theories or blah blah blah) could be, but that does not make them real. They are all in the mind.

Going back to the Casper analogy, if the incredible advanced alien life forms that could exist in this other dimension poke their noses into ours then great, I will wholeheartedly embrace them (probably wearing a radiation suit). Until then, it's all cock waffle.

So then professor, please do tell us how many dimensions there are!

[Talk Talk]

So prior to gravity being discovered and subsequently measured, it didn't actually exist?

Yes, it did exist. Obviously. Unless rocks fall upwards when released. The theory of gravitation didn't need to be there for a real, measurable physical effect to happen. Science explains, it doesn't create.

[DV]

I'm watching one now, in between allowing TT to get under my skin.

Have you got proof he's actually under your skin?

Otherwise, it doesnt exist - or something.

May take on it - surely we haven't discovered and explained everything in the entire universe. There must be something out there we haven't currently got the technology to see or the intelligence to prove at this point. Does not mean it isn't potentially out there somewhere.

[BANGKOK RED]

Yes, it did exist. Obviously. Unless rocks fall upwards when released. The theory of gravitation didn't need to be there for a real, measurable physical effect to happen. Science explains, it doesn't create.

I still want you to tell us all how many dimensions there are.

You are really getting on my tits. Not that I have proof of that, as Dave quite rightly points out, if he exists.

[Talk Talk]

So then professor, please do tell us how many dimensions there are!

Meh. It depends on if your frame of reference. Spatial, 3. Temporal, 1. String and M-theory and all that goes up to about 11 I seem to remember. But they are just theories and there is no evidence for them.

PS quantum physics allows for an infinite number, but they aren't spatial or physical, rather more functional.

[The_Plagiarist]

In a way I agree with Talk Talk, but unfortunately theres no reasoning with (a) the god squad or (b) ghost hunters... but in general the things which are invisible to us are sometimes only because we haven't been taught to see them.

It's a common analogy in trading, like compare the first time you saw a chart of the FTSE100, to if you looked at the very same chart now, with two five ten however many years of reading charts. You will see infinitely more patterns which always existed in the chart when you first looked at it, but your brain wasn't conditioned to read them, therefore they remained completely invisible.

Think of the first time you read a foreign language or something.

[Kinky Tom]

so going back to my previous point...

if the universe itself materialised out of nothing and is continuing to grow into that nothing then that nothing does not exist and therefore it is not possible for the universe to be growing into it but it is.

i know that there is an infinate part of the universe that doesn't exist at this very moment in time but it soon will.

if this 'nothing' is completely unquatifiable then it is both equally possible and not possible that something 'else' is existing in that 'void' as we are to understand it.

if that void does have something else and our universe is inordinately close to growing into the void then is it not entirely possible that the void is inversely growing into the universe and the 'paranormal' is phenomena that we are experiencing in the cross over between the two... whatevers?

[Talk Talk]

You are really getting on my tits. Not that I have proof of that, as Dave quite rightly points out, if he exists.

Ah, metaphysics.

Generally it falls into three camps. "Brain in a tank", "higher being manipulating us" and "physical reality".

No prizes for guessing which one is right.

[BANGKOK RED]

Meh. It depends on if your frame of reference. Spatial, 3. Temporal, 1. String and M-theory and all that goes up to about 11 I seem to remember. But they are just theories and there is no evidence for them.

PS quantum physics allows for an infinite number, but they aren't spatial or physical, rather more functional.

The theory is actually that there are 12 dimensions.

but what do the 11/12  dimensions contain, what are they exactly?

[Talk Talk]

The theory is actually that there are 12 dimensions.

but what do the 11/12  dimensions contain, what are they exactly?

Theories 

[Simon Pieman]

Yes, it did exist. Obviously. Unless rocks fall upwards when released. The theory of gravitation didn't need to be there for a real, measurable physical effect to happen. Science explains, it doesn't create.

That's what Leefer has been saying though. He's not saying 'ghosts exist and in a few years time science will prove that'. More like there is an already occurring phenomenon which will be explained by science in a few years time, then possibly harnessed for modern living. Like electricity was back in the day.

 

[BANGKOK RED]

Theories 

I'm speechless.

There was once a time that such discussions would flourish in the TEF. Who the fuck let this ignorant troll in?

[Arriba]

he is a ghost who lets himself in.woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo