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« Reply #90 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 08:42:38 » |
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Explain this to me, pretty much everyone has a mobile phone with a camera/video yet not one conclusive picture or video exists of any paranormal activity and that goes for UFO's too.
I was thinking this earlier too, it's a very good point.
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« Reply #91 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 08:43:18 » |
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EDIT@ThePlagiarist Wondered how long it would be till the Berkleyan Phenomenalists poked their noses in. They always turn up in debates like this, it's spooky, like they've got a sixth sense
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« Reply #92 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 08:43:51 » |
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« Reply #93 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 09:39:24 » |
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I'm still hopeful that the LHC might reveal something interesting.
But until Brian Cox, Stephen Hawkins or some other famous science bod says that there are ghosts, I'm sitting firmly on the fence.
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« Reply #94 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 09:53:22 » |
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I made crop circles many years ago. They're a riot. Also got caught making one by the pigs and they didn't believe us, which was quite amusing. I stayed here sometime last year, http://www.westonmanor.co.uk/ and stayed on the side of the hotel in another building. I went out for a few fags before sleep and noticed the lights come on in the upstairs corridors a few times. (They came on automatically in this building when you walked through the corridors.) I remember hearing a guest or 2 upstairs and heard doors opening and closing and taps running and things. In the morning I was told I was the only person in the hotel and no one else went in or out of the buildin I stayed in. Nice. Needless to say the second night wasn't relaxed.  i tend to disagree, i believe there is life after death,  The life you experience after death is identical to the life you experience before birth. Prove they don't exist. if you're so completely sure they don't exist, show us why. You obviously know a lot more than anyone else here, so kindly prove it.
Surely it's like religion though. The burden of proof is the responsibility of the believer, not the non-believer? For the record I'm indifferent to it. I've seen things that are unexplainable, but just dismiss it really. I always believe there a rational explanation however hard it might be to prove.
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« Reply #95 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 09:57:42 » |
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Sir William Crookes was a famous scientist of his time, and proved materialisations of spirit entities in to our physical conditions, with scientific experiments with a physical medium. This can be read about for example in "The History of Spiritualism", by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. ( Yes the author of Sherlock Holmes books, and a supporter of Spiritualism).
Unfortunately true physical mediums are very rare today, as it takes years of development, dedication to it is lacking in modern life, and they have often been accused of fraud, whether there was or not. Some are still tucked away in private circles for their own interest and satisfaction, and I don't blame them. Crookes was attacked by the scientific establishment,who put his career at risk for trying to tell his truth. He had to withdraw from investigations after that, but always maintained the same views.
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« Reply #96 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 09:59:11 » |
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I once used a ouija (is that really how you spell it?) board to try and convince a bird that her recently dead dad wanted her to sleep with me.
I can't believe this post passed me by. Did it work, Ben? It's like something that Jeremy from Peep Show would attempt, genius.
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« Reply #97 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 10:00:27 » |
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« Reply #98 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 10:02:20 » |
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Sir William Crookes was a famous scientist of his time, and proved materialisations of spirit entities in to our physical conditions, with scientific experiments with a physical medium.
No he didn't. Asides from the fact that I have read a thing or two about Crookes, you are preaching to an audience who have access to google. Prove me wrong.
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« Reply #99 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 10:10:11 » |
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Well I have studied and investigated the paranormal and Spiritualism for about 25 years, and have quite a library of books which indicate that the paranormal as we call it is a reality. There are as yet incompletely understood laws which govern it.
If you've studied it for 25 years and have books that only indicate that there could be paranormal activity then that's not proof.
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« Reply #100 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 10:22:08 » |
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i saw ufo , looking toward fairford..... Cannot be a uk build plane as this thing moved like i have not seen before, Was not a latern either.
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« Reply #101 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 10:25:55 » |
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UFO's are hardly paranormal though. It is perfectly rational to imagine that they exist, in fact the universe is so large that it would be ludicrous to believe that they don't exist.
Whether they have visited Earth or not is another matter entirely, but they are far from being fantasy.
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« Reply #102 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 10:29:58 » |
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UFO's are hardly paranormal though. It is perfectly rational to imagine that they exist, in fact the universe is so large that it would be ludicrous to believe that they don't exist.
Whether they have visited Earth or not is another matter entirely, but they are far from being fantasy.
It's perfecly rational that aliens exist, for the reasons mentioned. UFO's do exist - i often see flying objects which i can't identify
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« Reply #103 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 10:34:00 » |
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UFO's do exist - i often see flying objects which i can't identify
Well of course. But for the sake of argument I was sticking with the visitor's from Mars type UFO's.
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« Reply #104 on: Monday, September 27, 2010, 10:34:48 » |
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It's complete bollocks.
There is no rational scientific proof or evidence that any of it exists. Therefore it doesn't. You can 'believe' all you like in the paranormal, ghosts, UFOs, the afterlife and gods all you want but that doesn't make them exist or real.
Nope.
Bloody hell, I'm agreeing with TT. In my view its all bollocks but for those who believe in it, fair enough.
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